Dave Ellen: My point?? Are you *reading* what I wrote, or are you simply so overwhelmed that you can't think of anything else to say? My obvious point is that your "God" is absolutely *NOT* "the totality of being, of creation, of life, of religion, of spirituality, of morality, of physics, of chemistry, of wormholes, of time cones, of forgiveness, of love, of compassion, of double helixes, of event horizons" as you describe. Maybe you missed my dozens of examples?? The entire bible is full of hate, killing, sexism, racism, religious intolerance, bigotry, hypocrisy, contradictions, unfulfilled prophesies, and pure lunacy. And since you actually mentioned chemistry, double helixes and physics, let me show you God's *true* view of science:
- The earth is stable and does not move. 1 Sam.2:8, 1 Chr.16:30; Job 9:6, 38:4-6; Ps.96:10, 104:5, Is.13:10, Mic.6:2
If so, then it must not spin on its axis or travel about the sun.
- The sun moves around the earth. Psalms 19:4-5, Is.13:10
- God will gather up the people of Judea "from the four corners of the earth." Is.11:12
In the Bible's view, the earth is flat with four corners.
- The moon produces its own light and the earth does not move. Is.13:10
- The stone became "a great mountain" that "filled the whole earth." This could only be possible on a flat, disc-shaped earth. Dan.2:35 (one of the *many* lies in the bible)
- Daniel's tree is tall enough to see "to the end of the earth." Dan.4:10-11
Only on a flat earth would this be possible.
- According to the gospels, epilepsy, blindness, and the inability to speak are caused by demonic possession. Mt.9:32, 12:22, 17:14-18; Mk.9:17-29, Lk.11:14, 9:39-42
- Jesus is incorrect when he says that the mustard seed is the smallest seed. And since there are no trees in the mustard family, mustard seeds do not grow into "the greatest of all trees." Mt.13:31-32, Mk.4:31-32
- If you are sick, don't go to a medical doctor -- rely on the power of prayer. Jas.5:14-15
- In the book of Revelation (7:1), John "saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth." Well, I guess that settles it: the earth is flat and square-shaped, or at least quadrilateral in shape.
- "And there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters." Rev.8:10
In the bible, stars are just lights that can fall to the ground from the sky. (Rev.1:16, 6:13, 12:4)
- Bats are birds to the biblical God. Leviticus 11:13, 19
- Why are some people born with disabilities? Because God deliberately makes them that way. Exodus 4:11
- God worries that people could actually build a tower high enough to reach him (them?) in heaven. Genesis 11:4
- God makes the animals and parades them before Adam to see if any would strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes to please him. (Although he was tempted to go for the sheep.) Note that in these verses, God makes the animals after making Adam, whereas in the first creation story (Genesis 1:25-27) the order is reversed. After making the animals, God has Adam name them all. The naming of several million species must have kept Adam busy for a while. But we know that the animals were not created instantaneously from the ground, but rather that they evolved over millions of years. And we still don't have names for all of them. Ten thousand new species of insects are discovered and named each year. Genesis 2:18-22
How about some more of God's racism for ya??:
- The Israelites offend God by "taking" foreign wives and thereby corrupting the "holy seed." Ezra 9:2
- When Ezra hears of the intermarriages he tears his clothes, plucks out his hair and beard, and sits down astonished. Ezra 9:3
- Nehemiah rebukes the men for marrying "strange wives." To punish them he "contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair." Neh.13:25-27
Watch out for those with an "evil eye." Pr.23:6, 28:22
God is evil: Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.
- Jeremiah 19:3
Sure hope you're circumcised!: Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
- Jeremiah 4:4
But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
- Isiah 36:12
Peace,
- Zen
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen Roberts |
