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To: TobagoJack who wrote (2903)4/6/2001 2:43:42 PM
From: JMD  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
O.K. Jay, let me toss you an impossible curve ball> What in your opinion best describes the 'attitude' of the Chinese to the U.S.? If that question were posed to me in reverse, I'd say the Yanks are either completely mesmerized by the "Exotic Orient" or totally scared out of their minds by the power to overwhelm. "China", in other words, elicits a pretty damned emotional reaction for most folks in the States; few are inclined to amble on over and simply say "howdy, wassup?" Several of your prior posts seem to imply that the Chinese are scarred by long and vivid memories of ill treatment at the hands of invaders, of which the U.S. was one. So is it the case, for example, that we have two peoples who are exceptionally "edgy" about one another? The Chinese folks think the U.S. folks are bullies or arrogant a**holes or whatever, while the Yanks lie awake at night alternately filled with lust at the prospect of cracking the Chinese market, or shaking in their boots at the prospect of world domination by somebody other than themselves, with the Chinese being the logical replacement candidates.
Even if vague, I think this kind of thing matters. It seems to me that there is something akin to a "national emotional infrastructure" that underlies relations between sovereign countries. The U.S. and the U.K. for example have little hissy fits from time to time, but the dust-ups usually last about one week, after which everybody settles down and resumes normal relations. In other words, the U.S. and the U.K. actually like one another, for god's sake. Think about it: is there any, ANY, plausible scenario that could envision these two nations at war? Not a snowball's chance. And the identical notion pertains to Canada. France? We think they're kind of pissy, and they are convinced beyond moral certitude that the Yanks have ascended to the cultural level of Mayberry RFD, but at the end of the day the only thing we're ever going to mutually launch at one another is cabernet [and maybe a few sour grapes as well]. And of course the balance of the NATO countries, and so on.
China? Ain't on that list. The question is: why? I think it begins with understanding the pre-existing 'national emotional infrastructure'. This plane thing just wouldn't be that big a deal elsewhere. Every nation knows that every other nation is spying their butts off 7X24--this is not a revelation. Every nation knows what to do when they catch some other nation doing the dirty deed: expel their diplomats for a few weeks, issue a few "angered and dismayed" press releases, and then go back to business as usual. Simple.
But none of the above pertains to China-U.S. which is obviously a major bummer for both, not to mention the rest of the world. Your opinions would be appreciated. best regards, mike doyle