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To: Ilaine who wrote (91324)	4/7/2001 8:10:23 AM
From: heraclitus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

CB Actually about 10 years to build a nuke. But the last one the Californians managed to build took about 15 years. That's a long time to go w/o pistachios! -g homer

To: Ilaine who wrote (91324)	4/7/2001 9:43:08 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

CB, Build some fricking power plants, on the double. How hard can that be? Quit lollygagging and get it done. Actually that can be quite difficult. You need guys that can actually do something rather then "make money" or be a hot shot "big guy" at something only interested in their career. Message 15615665 You want me to start a rant about the civil engineering business -g- One thing I know about the USA, you have loads of guys who can make things happen. It will take some time before such guys are appreciated, rather then regarded as dumb clucks. pearly.

To: Ilaine who wrote (91324)	4/7/2001 11:03:49 AM
From: GraceZ	Respond to of 436258

The problem isn't that we won't sell them power, it's that we won't sell them power and let them set the price the power will be sold to them. Just as they would never sell us nuts, fruits and software and let us set the price. If the people were paying the real cost of the power all along then the boom would have slowed down long before it got to the crisis stage and the same people that protest against power plants would have been marching to build them. How hard can that be? When was the last time you visited the left coast? LOL

To: Ilaine who wrote (91324)	4/7/2001 1:19:42 PM
From: lightfoot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

FWIW, There are about 65 power plants in planning stages to be built in the next 10 years. But CA's NIMBY approach means that they will have to pay others for it. FWIW, Warren Buffet bought Midwest energy ahead of the curve. CPN just had a record earnings report, In looking at their website they are hiring. Others in the industry are looking at the best business environment in years. The independent engineering groups pursuing this work are hungry, but could get edged out by design build contracts for the large companies like Kiewitt, Black & Veetch, GE, & Foster Wheeler. Suppliers and engineering firms are already positioning themselves for the growth in the power industry. A stock that caught my eye recently is CPV, a prison REIT, at it's current price paying 12% annual dividend. I would like to see it drop down to pick some up around 10 so the yield would be more like 15%. I enjoy lurking on this thread, but don't trade full time any more. Just looking for position trading opportunities. I covered my lone short position trade last week. Held a QQQ short from 67 covered at 35. Looking for another good position trade now. Thinking short on the DOW for a position trade, but I'm sleeping well with cash, and made enough to pay my taxes. The thing I have learned through all this market turmoil is patience. From 573 trades the first quarter of 2000 to only 2 this quarter has caused some withdrawal pains. But getting back to industrial sales again and working with people has been good for me. It was tough giving up my trading uniform (underwear & bathrobe), but I still browse this thread on a regular basis for the best reads on the market. Thanks to all on this thread for sharing their market reads.