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To: Dan3 who wrote (131904)	4/7/2001 1:41:27 PM
From: hdl	Respond to of 186894

is dell a victim or a co-conspirator

To: Dan3 who wrote (131904)	4/7/2001 1:45:23 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Since AMD doesn't buy from Intel, they can't very well make such a complaint. Dan Sure.... Right.... That's why, when AMD and VIA were asked if they made the complaint, they didn't deny it. Instead, they both "Declined Comment". If you're innocent, you say so. Definition: Decline Comment - They did it, but I don't want to admit it, because it will make them look like the low life losers, that they are. Semi

To: Dan3 who wrote (131904)	4/7/2001 2:38:51 PM
From: deibutfeif	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan3, re:Since AMD doesn't buy from Intel, they can't very well make such a complaint. Wrong. "The commission said Friday it is conducting the investigation, still in its preliminary stages, in reaction to two complaints filed by Intel competitors regarding the company's business practices." quotes.freerealtime.com ~dbf

To: Dan3 who wrote (131904)	4/7/2001 2:56:30 PM
From: Windsock	Respond to of 186894

Dan - Re"The complaint sounds like it was alleging "tying" (don't offer AMD chips in a "corporate" machine or we won't sell you any Pentiums)." Read the Article. The EU investigation involves cooperative advertising payments for Intel Inside and licensing of the P6 bus. "Activities under investigation include Intel's licensing agreements with PC makers and retailers and the rebates it grants these other companies in return for their loyalty, she [EU spokeswoman] said." "The complaint refers specifically to the bus, which connects the microprocessor chip with the motherboard inside a PC." nytimes.com The notion that agreements with OEM's to exclude AMD processors exist is just a Droid fantasy. Neither the FTC in its decade long investigation nor anyone else has found any evidence of this. The concept of a conspiracy to exclude AMD processors was authored by Jerry Sanders as an excuse for AMD failures, dutifully repeated by the Droids. The proof offered is generally in the form that an AMD salesman said that his cousin said that his brother said that a design engineer said...