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To: rudedog who wrote (131964)	4/8/2001 1:04:13 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Rudedog - re: "I'm sure not everyone gets fired up over advanced math but it seems like there should be a clear distinction between people who actually know what they are talking about and those who know some of the words. " I'm not quite sure what argument you are trying to make, but I think I understand your point. I like this line the best: "Evidently people figure that some nerdy engineer will do the hard stuff and so CS and BA types just need to know who to hire. " Paul

To: rudedog who wrote (131964)	4/9/2001 7:46:21 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

Hi Rudedog, RE: math/CS folks vs engineers..."engineer will do the hard stuff and so CS and BA types just need to know who to hire" At our university, engineers could do Adv Applied Math (problem sets) incredibly well (impressive), but generally speaking, seemed to struggle with the conceptual, theoretical courses. I generally didn't see this issue with the math majors, nor CS folks. Maybe math and CS courses provide training that is good for concept development due to the rigorous training in theory. Proofs are just a type of verbalization of a vision, concept. Proofs for mathmaticians, problems sets for engineers? Regards, Amy J