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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (10805)	4/9/2001 1:18:11 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I did not say you had less outrage. I said that if you were not willing to make it effectual, so what? What makes you think I'm not willing to make it effectual? Just because I don't want Colin Powell to harangue other countries? I can give money to any number of agents. I can write a book detailing the atrocities or send a letter to the editor of every major paper in the world every day. I can have my company pull its factory out or its goods and put my resources in places that won't squander them. I can vote against holding the Olympics there. I could disparage them on the Tonite show. I can gather some of the abused and bring them here to my home. I can even get my assault rifle out from under the bed, don my fatigues, and go kick some butt. It's not like what the US does to stop atrocities in any number of places is oh so effectual. You shifted to a pragmatic argument I didn't shift anything. I've been yammering for as long as you've known me about social contracts, as pragmatic a construct as there is. About self-determination and the freedom to do what you want within your own bailiwick. About the art of consensus building. About civility. Nothing new here. Just packaged a bit differently. But I would be interested in hearing your rationale for asserting that states that oppress their people with impunity will more likely stop if we say nothing....... The argument is along the lines of the one where becoming wealthier makes an underdeveloped country more likely to concern itself with the environment or less likely to have big families. Or that trading with China will improve the the treatment of its people. Karen