Michael,
Judge for yourself. ;^)
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Message 15593249
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: zonkie
I see what you mean. In other words, you believe it without any proof, the evidence of a few muffed words is enough to convince you. Although you've probably never worked with dyslexic's, or been educated in the field.
Ok fine, then using your definition I'll bet there are many people who "believe" Bill Clinton is a dangerous sexual predator and rapist.
But most people wouldn't go around and state it as a fact the way you just did.
Michael
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Message 14398964
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: KLP
Yup, but don't hold your breath waiting for a reply KLP.
Democrats deep down realize my analysis is right on the money. But they don't care. They've been so mind numbed to believe Republicans are the equivalent of the devil reincarnated, that they're willing to accept, admire, applaud and even love a rapist if it means the devil is held at bay.
I learned a long time ago. Politics is a liberal Democrats real religion. And they're more than willing to place public policy morality, far above personal morality. That's why they can support people such as Gore/Clinton, Clinton/Gore who are obviously lying manipulators. They're willing to be duped, because, being duped means a Republican (devil) will be stopped.
It also explains why a person such as Joe Lieberman can claim to be a deeply religious person, and still support cutting the head of a fully viable baby open and sucking out the child's brain. "Political policy religion", is above in importance to spiritual religion.
Additionally, this explains why you don't see any pro threads here on SI supporting Gore. They really aren't pro anything. Just anti Republican.
This religious mindset has been so drummed into the heads of Democrats, they're willing to say anything in order to get their candidate elected. For instance, they will fake outrage in order to try and paint a picture of a Republican as a racist, a homophobe bent on killing all homosexuals, or a person who wants to starve children, the elderly, or pollute the water supply and kill us all.
These are actual Democratic party play-book techniques, fully endorsed by their members as just part of the battle against the evil Republican entity. No claim is too outrageous, and no persons behavior is questioned as long as they are part of the team. So Gore/Clinton, or any other Democrat, can say or do anything they wish, as long as they support the public religion known as *liberalism*.
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Message 13529558
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: Steven Rogers
Steven, I think you will find this article interesting..
Cops Seek Safest Ways To Seize Kids
By David Briscoe
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, April 30, 2000; 12:49 p.m. EDT
washingtonpost.com.
WASHINGTON ?? Police agencies, which rarely take children with a show of force, say they cannot recall anything like the Immigration and Naturalization Service operation that removed 6-year-old Elian Gonzalez from his relatives' home using an armed assault team.
Law enforcement officials regularly face the decision of how and when to use guns to take innocent kids into custody. While few officers openly criticize the capture of Elian at gunpoint, they always look for nonviolent options.
Local police, who handle dangerous domestic disputes daily, avoid either a show of force or use of force whenever they can. Most of the time, they don't have to go in with guns drawn.
"What you've got is a child with a warrant out on him, and when is the next time that that is going to happen?" asked Lt. Lester Bell, head of a county Crimes Against Children unit in Georgia. Federal agents used an alien arrest warrant that declared Elian "in violation of the immigration laws" and a search warrant to enter the Miami house and remove the 6-year-old on April 21.
Even immigration agents, who pursue illegal aliens of all ages, have never had to use such force to take a child, acknowledged spokeswoman Maria Cardona.
"We serve search warrants all the time, but it's the first time we've had to serve a search warrant to relatives who have remained unwilling to abide by INS instructions," she said.
Still, Cardona said, the agency has enforcement agents around the country ready to stage a similar raid if necessary.
The danger of the action was cited by family members and others in accusing Attorney General Janet Reno of risking the boy's life to appease Cuban leader Fidel Castro.
The Clinton administration denies that. Polls show most American cheer the return of the boy to his father. And children's rights groups applaud both the result and the method.
"We need Janet Reno to go into a thousand homes this week," said David L. Levy of the Children's Rights Council. "Elian is but the tip of the iceberg."
Pamela S. Stuart-Mills, director of Parental Alienation Syndrome Research Foundation, said she has witnessed abduction cases where authorities faced armed guards.
But rarely, if ever, has the nation witnessed live, recorded, or in still photographs the taking of a child with such force as the Miami operation.
Even with real-life police shows nightly taking viewers along in patrol cars, the image of a little boy inches from the barrel of a fearsome automatic rifle still shocked the country.
In 13 years, the nationally syndicated TV show "COPS" has never shown a child taken at gunpoint from an adult, its producers say. COPS cameras have never gone with immigration agents, but they have followed local police in several U.S. cities, as well as Russia, Britain and Hong Kong.
But the show does catch children in criminal circumstances. In a recent episode, an officer finds two toddlers outside a motel room door, their grandmother asleep inside.
In such child neglect cases, adults rarely battle police to keep the kids.
But kidnappers, hijackers, robbers, rapists and violent parents often use guns, and police face a hard choice.
Some are reluctant to discuss possible tactics, and others don't want to appear critical of the INS. Asked how Seattle police would remove a child from a home in a custody case, spokesman Clem Benton said, "We're not going to touch that one ... We're not going to criticize other agencies or offer any kind of comment in that area."
But police officials willing to describe their operations, said they nearly always talk first.
In Cobb County, Ga., officers are not likely to call ahead but wouldn't come in the middle of the night, said Bell, the children's crime unit commander.
He recalled an unpublicized case four years.
"We had an individual belonging to a paramilitary group. He had his house fenced, with dogs, and was not sending his kids to school and was feeding them only once a day. We had to go in and get those kids," Bell said.
Five officers were sent in ? two in plainclothes, three in uniform.
"We ended up talking him into letting us in," Bell said.
Not all such confrontations end peacefully. Eighteen children were among the 80 people killed in what the government calls a mass suicide of fire and gunfire after the FBI lobbed tear gas into the Branch Davidian cult compound in Waco, Texas, seven years ago.
Stories of a deranged parent killing his or her children, usually followed by a suicide, are more common than stories of police putting childrens' lives in danger in custody cases.
Dave Wagner, deputy district attorney for California's Orange County, said he could recall no SWAT-style raid to pick up a kid.
"Our investigators are armed but usually carry their weapons underneath their clothing. They select the amount of force necessary to do the job and make sure no one is hurt," Wagner said.
In Chicago, police spokesman Pat Camden doesn't recall anything similar to the Elian incident, and the force has no specially trained unit for child recovery.
If such a mission were necessary, "what we would end up using is our hostage, barricade and terrorist teams," said Camden.
Police departments reveal little about such units, but they are basically paramilitary-style outfits, with special training. In Chicago that training doesn't include anything like going into a house and snatching a kid at gunpoint, said Camden.
Among the most dangerous cases involving children are kidnappings, handled by the FBI.
But even the FBI has no child rescue unit, said Chicago bureau spokesman Ross Rice. Kidnappings for ransom are now rare in America, he said. Most involve adults and drugs and don't lead to the need to break into a house to recover a child.
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Message 14215806
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: e-Bill
After watching Hillary, I honestly felt embarrassed for the Democrats. They really have turned into the party of rhetorical platitudes.
I also felt stunned at times watching the convention comprehending the fact there're actually Americans who buy that rhetorical nonsense. Then I turn on my computer and read SI and the platitude lovers actually have the gall to post here. Of course, most don't use their real name, so I guess they feel anonymity brings them less shame.
Imagine the mindless women in the convention hall last night who stood over and over cheering President Clinton. (a probable rapist). Were they NOW members? or were they paid for their adulation? It boggles my mind.
The only thing I can figure is they live with their head in the sand and receive all their information from Dan Rathers nightly Democratic party spin machine.
Talk about indoctrination and propaganda.
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Message 14161361
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: Frank Griffin
Frank, here is the man the Democratic party loves and Al Gore called "one of our greatest Presidents".
8/02/00 10:55 p.m.
Shays Shocker
Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice.
worldnetdaily.com
By NR staff
Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio show Wednesday that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice.
Talk-show host Tom Scott of Clear Channel Broadcasting, New Haven (WELI 960) asked Shays about the mysterious impeachment "evidence room," prompting the GOP moderate to say that Broaddrick "disclosed that she had been raped, not once, but twice" to Judiciary Committee investigators.
Shays, who is often hailed by the New York Times for his independent judgment and good sense, found the evidence compelling:
"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."
And Shays voted against impeachment!
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Message 14166828
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: Neocon
Neo, scanning through the thread today it looks like the Democratic supporters are in panic mode after the speech last night. The "compassionate conservative" tide is sweeping across the America's. And it's hitting them like a 100 foot wall of reality.
Conservatives have finally found a leader in George W. Bush. He may not speak the lines in quite the same way as Ronald Reagan, and he may not have as commanding a presence. But he does have the ability to unite and lead the nation toward the ideals and values most Americans accept and admire.
The pressure is now all on the Democrats and Al Gore. I don't believe their organizational skills are nearly effective enough to get the job done. The scare tactics won't work this time, so all they have left is "character".
It doesn't take a rocket science to see a "character" comparison playbook won't cut it.
It should be interesting indeed to see the Democratic women fawning all over the probable "rapist and Chief" Bill Clinton at the convention. They may get swooned and mesmorized by his eyes, but most will see the phoniness that surrounds him and the rest of his embarrassing followers.
"The wheel has turned and it's time for them to go"!
As George W said last night, we can begin again and insist on leaders who share the values of honesty, integrity, courage, responsibility and decency again.
We owe it to our children to try.
Michael
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Message 14727637
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: PartyTime
PartyTime, (King complainer to SI on the Bush thread) you're really reaching for anything here in the last dying days aren't you?
A father wants to keep his teenage daughters from the knowledge of a DUI 25 years ago, and you consider that horrific or something?? Hilarious....
Yet Clinton is a probable rapist, Gore is a serial liar, and his supporters cheer and adulate both of them like they're the re-incarnation of Buddha or something...
How utterly pathetic...
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Message 14321493
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: ColtonGang
David, you're starting to sound as delusional as your hero Al Gore.
The country is moving toward conservative principles and conservative ideals. Bill Clinton is the best player on the Republicans team. Who would have thought just under 8 years ago the Republicans would win both houses of congress and the Presidency in the year 2000.
Only blind Democratic supporters who hooked their G-string to Clinton have allowed it happen.
Thanks David for being such a partisan blind supporter of Clinton. And demonstrating how totally hypocritical Democrats have been to independents around the country.
I have to laugh when I think of the Clarence Thomas hearings and all the *shock* and *outrage* liberal Democrats feined toward allegedly telling a sexual joke in the office. And then compare and contrast it to the way they have reacted to all the information related to the President being a rapist.
The exposure of hypocrisy is now complete. And it's time to watch the Democrats sit on the sidelines for a few years and convulse against Republicans in charge of both houses of congress and the Presidency.
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Message 14445034
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: flapjack
Are you saying that CBS, NBC, CNN and the other mainstream outlets, such as the N.Y Times provide error free reporting and analysis? Puleeeze! That's a real LOL! :)
I note that you were unable to describe in any real detail what in the reports I posted was false. But elected to instead paint a broad brush of innuendo. That's pretty similar to your hero's Gore and Clinton. Ms. Clinton saw a "vast right wing conspiracy" coming down on her. And Gore's flim-flam, flip-flop lies are legendary.
Let me see if you can answer these questions straight up.
1. Do you believe Bill Clinton is a rapist?
2. Why should we taxpayers pay for Al Gore's mothers prescription drugs, when Al Gore is a multimillionaire?
3. Why should we pay for any person over 55's drugs if they're wealthy and can easily afford it?
4. Why should a family, struggling to get by financially, be forced by our government to have their children attend a really lousy public school?
5. Why does Al Gore lie so often? Is he delusional? Can he tell the difference between reality and fantasy?
6. Why do Democrats trust the government more than individuals in regard to investing for their retirement?
7. Why are Democrats afraid to let a small portion of social security be controlled by an individual in their own account, when federal employees have that right and option today?
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Message 15593286
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: zonkie
res- >>>>I'll bet there are many people who "believe" Bill Clinton is a dangerous sexual predator and rapist.
But most people wouldn't go around and state it as a fact the way you just did.
The Watson kid would.
So, now you're saying you and Tom are alike in posting style?
hmmm, now I see why you spent so much time obsessively cataloguing so many of his posts. :)
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Message 15593320
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: zonkie
You're the one who made the comparison. Allow me to refresh your memory.
1. You stated as a fact that Bush had dyslexia.
2. When challenged, you stated it wasn't really a fact, but an opinion based on observations.
3. I stated many people probably believe Clinton is a rapist and or sexual predator, but wouldn't claim it as a fact.
4. You stated, "Tom Watson would"
Therefore, you see your posting style in alignment with Tom Watson's posting style. This, right after, you condemned his posting style to another poster.
Now, who is really confused zonkie?
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Message 14171941
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: Frank Griffin
Yup, that's what happens when you sell your soul to a man who wanted to be King.
What do you think people of decency like Lieberman, Bradley and Jimmy Carter will be thinking as they stand to give praise to Bill Clinton at the convention?
The question is, will they be willing to give a standing ovation to a perjurer and probable rapist? Or will they instead elect not to attend the first night devoted to Bill and Hillary's adulation?
Michael
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Message 14257704
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: flapjack
It's never ceases to amaze me the level of rationalization Democrats are willing to go through in order to support their party members.
The difference is, if a Republican has done something dishonorable, most Republicans have no problem condemning the behavior and asking them to remove themselves from positions of authority. Didn't Bob Packwood give up his seat and Dan Burton give up his position of authority for that very reason?
On the other hand, look at the depth of deprivation Democrats have been, and are willing to go through in order to support Clinton, his actions and those in his administration.
It only demonstrates the hypocrisy of the left to anyone willing to actual think about the issue. As I said more than 3 years ago on these very threads. If the Democrats don't condemn Clinton and his actions soon, the party will be following him off the cliff of insignificance.
Ten years ago if anyone had said Republicans will win a majority in both houses of the congress and the Presidency within a decade you would have been laughed at. Today, thanks to those in the Democratic party who have been so willing to defend a liar, probable rapist, and person of such low character, it's about to happen.
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Message 14242976
From: Michael D. Cummings
To: Michael D. Cummings
Article...Derry N.H. Woman Protests Alleged Rape of Juanita Broadderick By Bill Clinton
Speech written and given by Katherine Prudhomme
newzlinx.cjb.net
Saturday August 19, 2000
Good afternoon. My name is Katherine Prudhomme. I am a wife, a mother, the first female graduate of my trade high schools machine shop program and I am a rape survivor. As such I am wearing a dark green ribbon today to tell the world "I am a rape survivor and I will not be ashamed!" I thank all who have chosen to wear light purple ribbons showing that they believe and support Juanita Broaddrick. Thank you also to the many generous volunteers who helped make this happen today.
Last December during the New Hampshire primary I asked V.P Al Gore during a live, televised town hall meeting at WNDS TV studios not far from my Derry home if he believed Juanita Broaddrick. She is the woman who made the highly credible claim of rape against a sitting president, William Clinton.
Juanita Broaddrick was a volunteer on the "Clinton for Governor" campaign when she says she was raped in a Little Rock, Arkansas hotel room. Broaddrick, a successful nursing home owner with nothing but peace of mind to gain from telling her story was interviewed by Lisa Myers in January 1999. The interview aired February 24 of the same year on the Dateline NBC program.
Most people who saw the interview believed Mrs. Broaddrick. President Clinton, responding through his lawyer, has said this claim is false. Haven’t we been down this road before with Clinton? And haven’t we found out what his word is worth? His word is worth nothing. To not believe Mrs. Broaddrick, to think Bill Clinton is not a rapist is to make a liar out of Mrs. Broaddrick. I won’t do that! I thank all of you who came out here today for saying with me – I believe Juanita Broaddrick!
Al Gore told me he did not see the interview and didn’t know how to evaluate all the charges. I wonder what made the Anita Hill case so much easier for him to evaluate? Gore went on to tell me how he thought the American people were tired of all these charges and wanted to move on.
That last statement really made me mad. What is he saying to me? That if I don’t "want to move on" then I am not one of the American people? Or is he telling those who still think that rape is a crime in this country and believe their president may be a rapist that they are out of touch with everybody else? Are we out of touch ? I say no! We are in fact in touch! WE are in touch with truth, we are in touch with justice, we are in touch with kindness and we are in touch with doing the right thing! And I won’t be manipulated by anyone who may try to tell me otherwise!
Gore has an undeniable record of believing women when they make a serious charge of sexual mistreatment by powerful Republican men. He stood up for and defended Anita Hill when she said she was sexually harassed by now Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Why then did he just dismiss Juanita Broaddrick? One would think such a "caring" person as Gore would have at least watched the interview Mrs. Broaddrick gave to Lisa Myers.
But he did not. Mrs. Broaddrick is simply to inconvenient for him to acknowledge. It takes a strong person to stand up for what is right when it is inconvenient and I learned that day last December that Gore is not a strong person.
Let’s move on to a women who has been at the forefront of the women’s and human rights crusade for decades. Hillary Clinton is someone that rape survivors such a myself or Mrs. Broaddrick or the brave green ribbon wearers among us should be able to turn to and depend on. But we cannot. Hillary Clinton has betrayed us.
She has words – thousands of them – that say she is on our side, but is she really? Consider these examples:
In the aftermath of the recent group sexual attacks during New York’s Puerto Rican Day Parade Mrs. Clinton called for increased penalties on those convicted of group sexual wilding. Of this incident Mrs. Clinton has said "We all looked on in horror at the videotapes because we know these women. They are wives, and sisters, and daughters. They are friends and neighbors. We know that if it could happen there - in broad daylight – it could happen anywhere. This is a crime against all women – everywhere. And so we have to say enough is enough. This violence is unacceptable and it must stop."
Well, Hillary I feel your pain, because I too have a videotape, a videotape of Juanita Broaddrick telling her story to Lisa Myers that I will give you today. It is a videotape that I have looked upon in horror. And when it told a tale of disgusting violence committed against a woman in broad daylight... A women who could have been my sister, my daughter or my mother... I too have to say "enough is enough – this violence is unacceptable and must stop".
Also consider what Mrs. Clinton said to the Inter-American Development Bank on October 20, 1997, "I am proud that my husband has stood up as President to confront the violence and to protect American women. While grassroots organizing by women is vital to each country’s tackling the crisis, it is only when men – from the level of men of the barrio to the level of men of the presidential palaces – join hands with us to stand against violence against women that we will know our societies have truly been transformed"
President Clinton has stood up to confront violence and protect American women? Why then has he refused to say anything other than this rape allegation is not true - and with this man we would be foolish to believe his words alone – we need proof! Why won’t he tell the American people where he was on the date in question - April 25, 1978? At that time Mr. Clinton was Attorney General of Arkansas. Those records do exist. Why can’t he take a stand on this and tell us where he was that morning? Mrs. Clinton you have said you talk with your husband about everything. What have you said to him about this? Because it is only when the men at the highest levels of our society, such as men of the presidential palaces join hands with us to stand against women that we will know our societies have truly been transformed...
That is why I, such a little person from Derry, New Hampshire believe that I truly have no choice today but to resort to this grassroots organizing. Grassroots organizing that I know that you, Mrs. Clinton, deep in your heart would not only approve of but applaud, if only I were not here to stand up for Juanita Broaddrick. For she is someone so totally inconvenient for you to believe. But I think you do.
To this last part I gotta say - Girl – get a backbone! We are told over and over that you are a strong woman. Show us some proof. Show us who you are with your actions not just with your words. Because actions beat words hands down every time.
Do the right thing Mrs. Clinton. I know that for you it must be the most difficult thing to do. This occasion demands no lessor action of the good and the brave. In answering .. or not answering the question, Mrs. Clinton, you will tell us loud and clear who you are.
Ask your husband if it is true that he committed this violent hate crime, a felony in all 50 state. Experienced investigators interviewed Mrs. Broaddrick and believed her. Experts in the field of sex offender treatment believe her. United Sates congressman Christopher Shays believes her. Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of Americans believe her. Do not dishonor all them with any further silence on this issue.
Mrs. Clinton, if you don’t believe Mrs. Broaddrick, you must tell us why! If you want the honor of representing in the United States Senate my beloved mother, my sister and a true heroic feminist if ever there was one, my young nephew - still learning the lessons of life that children learn simply by watching how adults like you, Mrs. Clinton and me behave, now and last but certainly not least - the millions of wonderful New Yorkers I am honored to be among today.
Mrs. Clinton, don’t take us back to the day when women were believed only when they were perfect or only when they were convenient to believe.
Mrs. Clinton, let me be clear, I ask you a question today not about the consensual affair that your husband had with Monica Lewinsky. No kind fair minded person would think to invade the privacy of your marriage in such a way.
I ask only about the charge made by Juanita Broaddrick, that she was raped by your husband. I believe Juanita Broaddrick – do you? Rape is not a sin. Rape is not just a mistake. Rape is not just a difficulty in someone’s marriage. Any answer to the question "Do you believe Juanita Broaddrick?" that uses any of these terms to describe rape is unacceptable.
I ask you this one question, Mrs. Clinton not to be mean or cruel to you but to be a good person. I want to be a positive and active member of the larger village. I want to do right by the children of today who sadly, may be the rape victims of the future. I am trying to be a wise village member who hacks away at the roots of the problem of sexual violence while some may be only grasping at leaves. That means I must talk about the violent hate crime against women called rape, not just when it is easy. I must also do it when it is hard.
Mrs. Clinton, I think it is kind to Mrs. Broaddrick that people stand up and say what so many have been thinking all along ...
I believe Juanita ... Do You? |
