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To: Road Walker who wrote (20086)4/14/2001 3:35:10 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
John,

regarding the SanDisk IP

Clearly Lexar Media walked away with something after the
'987 settlement. They got SanDisk to agree to a license
regarding SmartMedia cards that SanDisk doesn't even make,
they got SanDisk to cough up $2 million dollars in past licensing
infringements, they got SanDisk to acknowledge their work around,
and now they are getting CompactFlash competitors to purchase
or license their controllers. Lexar also stated that SanDisk
has the option to license technology for future products. I still
don't know exactly what that means.

You will notice that the CF companies that Lexar has sued do not
appear to be the known Hitachi customers who presumably use
both Hitachi ultra-high density flash and Hitachi flash controllers.
These companies may be immune to Lexar as Hitachi is a known
SanDisk licensee. Therefore, I expect that Hitachi has been
paying SanDisk a license for the C-series controller or that
a global cross-license between SanDisk and Hitachi might encompass
not only basic flash and MLC flash technology, but also the associated
controller technology. This would explain Eli's statements in the
past that SanDisk has garnered "xyz% of the CompactFlash market
and gets a royalty on the rest" or something to that effect.

Also, when I asked investor relations of Simple Technology about
the Lexar-SanDisk '987 litigation (Simple Technology previously owned
the Lexar Media IP), they stated they had switched to Hitachi controllers
and flash which were "SanDisk approved" or something of that nature,
suggesting they were not subject to any further licensing
fees from SNDK. That is, there was presumably a small fee
included in raw component (flash and controller) purchases
that trickled down to SanDisk through Hitachi.

Last Fall I recall Eli stating that the most recent cross-licensing
agreements with Hitachi included access to Hitachi's finished
product. This may be a situation where SanDisk requests a percentage
of output at a negotiated price in advance of production in
return for the technology exchange and in lieu of a cash payment
from Hitachi to SanDisk. Right now such an agreement must hurt
given the inventory backlog and the rapidly falling consumer
pricing environment. This will probably be disclosed at the
next c.c. Also recall that SanDisk is committed to UMC long term
and may have purchasing agreements which also work against
the planned inventory workdown.

Lexar will either be successful in obtaining new licensees or it
may force these same competitors to use Hitachi
or SanDisk or other controller technology.

Aus



To: Road Walker who wrote (20086)4/14/2001 6:25:23 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 60323
 
John,

See #6 and #8 below...

Message 13369885

I didn't find any language in the latest quarterly filing/annual report
from Simple Technology mentioning any ongoing negotiations
with SanDisk regarding planned licenses or any legal actions
related to their CompactFlash business.

Aus