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To: epicure who wrote (12209)	4/23/2001 10:54:12 AM
From: Win Smith	Respond to of 82486

Funny thing, X, I always wondered if the much-derided Clinton tale on hemp was similar in its origin. Clinton is asthmatic too, and I can imagine him trying to play cool after an initial coughing attack. In those times, harsh hemp was more the rule than the exception. I had that reaction at times too, but I persevered, and found the experience had it all over the ever popular collegiate binge drinking, especially the next day. It's been an awful long time, though. These days, I drink a lot of coffee. Maybe 1 beer a month on the average, it gives me a headache. I got relatively fond memories of hemp, and I hear current stuff is phenomenally potent, but it's been 20 years at least. When you can easily lose your house without a trial due to the current "original intent / strict constructionist" interpretation of what doesn't count as "unreasonable search and seizure", you got to be very careful, anyway.

To: epicure who wrote (12209)	4/23/2001 12:15:17 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi, X. When I went off to jury duty this ayem, I went to me pile of books to read looking for the title most likely to get me stricken from a jury. I came up with Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials, The Rise of Irrationalism and Perils of Piety by Wendy Kaminer. Unfortunately, the title of the book is so long that the print is probably too small to be seen by the lawyers no matter how prominently I place the book. Anyway, I was reading along during the down time and found something interesting about relativism. She's talking about the counterculture of the 60s and how it was every bit as absolutist as the moral certainty of religion. Then she says: <<The relativism of which conservatives complain is more a product of the therapeutic culture that emerged in the 1980s, when the political center shifted to the right and introspection became more fashionable than activism.>> p. 44 Thought you might find that interesting. I had always seen relativism "blamed" on the liberal left. She goes on to talk about how: <<In the '90s, liberals, some feminists and social issue conservatives, pursuing very different agendas, sought to transform private concerns (most notably sexual relationships) into matters of public interest, subject to regulation.>> Karen