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To: Lipko who wrote (98520)	4/30/2001 9:31:51 AM
From: Don Lloyd	Respond to of 152472

Lipko - ...AND THE MOST YOUR CUSTOMERS MAY HAVE TO DO IS INSTALL A NEW CHIP IN THEIR PHONES... I doubt if there will be any cases of consumers exchanging chips in their phones. What is more likely is that the handset manufacturers will be able to upgrade their production by simply surface mounting a newer chip to their existing board designs and using new firmware. Reworking handset inventory might be possible, but reworking customer products is both logistically and economically unlikely. Regards, Don

To: Lipko who wrote (98520)	4/30/2001 10:17:19 AM
From: Mika Kukkanen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

John "Lipko": Actually no matter what way you go, a GSM operator will have to buy new base stations, etc. The one thing you didn't point out was that WCDMA re-uses much of the existing GSM backbone - that was its "raison d'etre". There was one laughable slide shown at a wireless conference here in London and it concerned the cdmaOne overlay of GSM with nothing to back the so called smooth migration. The GSM backbone was part of the GSM standard as it was not only an air interface standardisation. It has stood the test of time and sure enough, it was reused for UMTS. GPRS is hardly a cost in the big picture of things and the only real argument I have heard is the need for 3G anyway - however i heard this before and naturally we will go that route no matter what. I do know about the "food chain" as you put it and agree entirely with you on it.

To: Lipko who wrote (98520)	5/1/2001 4:27:08 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

John, I know capslock used to lack 'netiquette' and was considered as shouting. But I noticed that I could read your post more easily than I can read the smaller text. Perhaps we've all aged and deteriorated since the younger days of the net in 1993 and 1995 when it took off. So perhaps 'shouting' at the no-longer-young baby boomers, who are buying spectacles by the million and are increasingly saying 'pardon' when people speak to them, might be a good idea. Another good thing about using computer screens is we don't have to roam around looking for a bit more light so we can read. Restaurants are often dimly lit, so if we've forgotten our reading glasses, we're in trouble. It'll be much more convenient when we can have a wireless IT connection with a paperback-sized pdQ, where we can also store all our memories, and look at it while lying in bed instead of perched on what everyone must find is a not-always comfortable puter chair. Who has fallen off theirs at least once? Whose has collapsed, dumping them on the floor? With a cochlea implant and direct optic nerve stimulation [or at least retina scan], we'll be home free. Mq