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To: Scumbria who wrote (142998)	5/6/2001 7:25:02 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I would say not many. But as I've been told from the horse's mouth, they're grateful for the work. Even at below minimum wage, they can work hard and make more in a few months than they can in Mexico. One gentleman Kristel worked with, TD, in a local restaurant has worked several years without a day off. He refuses, they tried to MAKE him take off. TD is saving to buy a house, and he only has another year or so to go. To buy a house - with Cash, upfront. This while supporting a large family in a rented house. Many of the younger Mexicans come to Houston, rent a one bedroom apartment, and 8 of them will live there, working several jobs each. They make enough money to bring their families to the US, and then get decent lodging for them and their families. Future middle class citizens. Derek

To: Scumbria who wrote (142998)	5/6/2001 2:28:07 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

None of us were around to watch my wife's grandfather come over from France. He was penniless and other relatives were indentured servants. He worked for the "prevailing" wage as there was no "minimum. He ended up farming, finally quitting in 1955, having made it through the depression and raising 2 kids and helping who knows how many relatives along the way. He cleared $50K his last year farming and his son taking over the operation was able to send all 4 of his children to private schools, among them Stanford and USC. Many of my relatives came out from Oklahoma after the dust bowl to work in the fields of the Central Valley. Relatives on the other side in my wife's family farmed in the midwest and were happy to break even. They came to the West Coast eventually with the help of members of their family. This country is a place where you can struggle and succeed. Whatever you imply with your statement about migrants, it doesn't resonate with many. The words are just hollow divisive rhetoric. Our parents said hard work will never kill us and we believed it. What is worthwhile in life without a struggle? My wife said the one thing that really pissed her off was finding out that her back operation (paid by insurance) in 1979 cost more than her college education (15K vs. 10K) and that the same operation had cost her brother and sister about $1000 (not paid by insurance) 15 years earlier.