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To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 2:28:46 PM
From: dawgfan2000  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Isn't Cali one of the largest lawyer-per-capita ratios in the country/world/solar system? -ggg-, umm -ng-



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 2:31:01 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor  Respond to of 436258
 
Well, the oil/gas/power/nuclear companies are an easy scapegoat, no? Full speed ahead, and free markets be damned! Everyone takes for granted that electricity comes from flipping a switch...how dare these greedy b*st*rds charge a fee for something so simple!<VBG>



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 2:54:56 PM
From: Don Lloyd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
CB -

My younger sister (the one who lives in Santa Barbara) and I aren't speaking again - we got into a fight about the Cali ute crisis last week - she's taking the Flatsville line, only worse - she's arguing that "profiteers" should be prosecuted as criminals and put in jail. This is apparently a common sentiment out there.

The real tragedy is that even if truly free markets can be installed, they will never work as well as they could because of political risk. Anyone bringing on supply in response to high prices and envisioned profits is too naive to run a company that I would want to invest in. Every industrial sector that is once tainted by government regulation and/or subsidy is forevermore addicted to the trading of political favors. This is why, no matter their technical promise, all of the alternate energy possibilities will fail as government prematurely yanks them from the womb and tries to mandate their use before their economic time.

Regards, Don



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 3:10:11 PM
From: flatsville  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 436258
 
Maybe she's pissed about this--

latimes.com

Just bear in mind your state (or a state nearby) at some point in the future may flirt with deregulation. Completely botched (a la California) or otherwise, I've yet to find any situation where it has benefitted the consumer. You should read what happened when they deregulated natural gas in some southern states.

Just remember that electricity generation, transmission and more importantly trading does not respect state boundaries. Think about what's happened to Oregonians.

Of course companies love customers who do not question the system in place or the motives and actions of the players involved. All the better when a company can screw customers and the sheeple ask for more (and harder) in the name of "free markets." It really doesn't get any better for them than that. LOL



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 3:30:23 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Considering that her state is profiteering from the large influx of immigrants, many of whom will start spending 2 hours a day commuting, running air 12 hours a day, and requiring juice to run servers, UPS, etc., she had better look in the mirror as to who's driving up the demand side.



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 3:40:11 PM
From: Skeeter Bug  Respond to of 436258
 
>>she's arguing that "profiteers" should be prosecuted as criminals and put in jail.<<

coby, profiteering is not illegal. however, collusion to fix prices is. the full force of the law should be brought down on any folks proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have colluded. i think that is what your younger sister was really trying to say. if not, then i'd hate to see her utility bills!



To: Ilaine who wrote (100259)5/7/2001 6:33:25 PM
From: XBrit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Cali is not seeming such a good place as it was.

- My health club dues went from $45 to $54/mo this week because of energy costs.

- Drinking water at local store went from 25c to 30c/gal this week because of energy costs.

- Neighbor is on 2nd reduction in asking price to sell his townhouse. $509k to $499k to $489k. Still no interest.

- 6 For-Sale signs on our little road now, a new record.

- Next-door neighbor was laid off from her HR job at a tech company on Thursday.

I've even considered cutting back on my own spending, but I really need that new HDTV ready TV -g-.