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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 1:46:57 AM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Can we get the Intel thread regulars to give a reasoned response to this new article?

Sorry, I'm not qualified. However I do remember the original Pentium ran extremely hot and somehow Intel was able to turn it into a success. I am constantly bewildered by people who can look at a new architecture (which incidently produces the highest SPEC scores ever measured) and think Intel is just too incompetent or stupid to address or improve issues in it's first incarnation. If the issues raised are real (a big IF), then I expect Intel is aware of them and will address them. Let me ask you a question: Do you think Intel is incapable of addressing these issues?

EP



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 2:00:20 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
TWY, <Can we get the Intel thread regulars to give a reasoned response to this new article?>

What's the point? When has Bert McComas or Van Smith ever written anything remotely positive about Intel?

All I can say is that if Pentium 4 performance is indeed throttled because of heat issues, then those heat problems should be mitigated with Northwood, don't you think? That means you'll definitely see Northwood pull far ahead of Athlon, even Thoroughbred.

Tenchusatsu

EDIT: One more thing. I'm sure once the 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 is released, if Bert McComas' arguments hold any water, we'll definitely see many more instances of heat throttling all over the place. And surely that would be yet another embarrassment for Intel. So just be patient.



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 2:12:01 AM
From: kapkan4u  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
<Can we get the Intel thread regulars to give a reasoned response to this new article?

(Elmer/Engel/Viola/Fowler/Fingolfen/Semi/AmyJ/SaturnV/Tench/etc. etc.>

A person capable of reasoning would have gotten out of Intel investments by now. The ones left are delusional.

BTW, I went short at the end of the day today on Intel, QQQs and AMAT. This rally looked like short covering capitulation, which means that we are about to resume downwards. I accurately predicted this rally after MSFT reported, but incorrectly assumed that Intel would participate.

Kap



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 2:21:28 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
TWY, one question for you. I noticed how the article does a heck-of-a-lot of analysis on the Pentium 4, as well as severe dissecting of Intel marketing claims and strategies. But when it comes to Athlon 4, the authors take AMD's word as gospel. Why is that?

Tenchusatsu



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 3:35:20 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Bert McComas & Van Smith

How can you reason with these anti-Intel bozos?

McComas is paid by AMD - and sponsors the ABI forums for AMD.

Paul



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (135296)5/17/2001 8:51:19 AM
From: Dan3  Respond to of 186894
 
Re: Can we get the Intel thread regulars to give a reasoned response to this new article?

Some nice efforts, other more typical responses.

Wasn't the original top frequency target for P4 on .18 1GHZ? I guess they did what they could with what they had. Since it can operate at up to 1.26GHZ without clock throttling it's 25% higher than their original target. Not bad, just nowhere near what they're advertising.

Regards,

Dan