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To: russwinter who wrote (708)5/18/2001 10:19:43 PM
From: ralfph  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8273
 
Thanks to all the replys to my post. <ggg>

LAB was what I was thinking about talk about being dirty . I do not remember if I got out with my shirt or not but I sure remember talking to the company . VERY SLIMEY.Now I have a better handle on the original PLY group. I used to get the two above mixed up LAY, LAB , and I wanted to make sure I was not about to mix em up again.

MR- Whats with this thing? I saw the news and did not jump in on monday. My reasoning was based on my impression that MR is done with the drilling for the season. I figure it should bounce for about 3 days then pull back into sleepy time mode and in 4 months time I will load up. Now the thing has legs.

XCL- Holly bat inerds Marcos . What on earth have you put a saddle on? Looks like you are in for a ride. WEEEEEEEEE

ITE- remember that one ?

S - Hell of a PE ratio even if it is over 5 bucks.

QBX- Lets see a break out to 1.17 and then several false starts to what? 3.50 would be nice and it did it in 99 and 98 when no one was watching. Thats what threw me last year... those 3.50 highs in 98 and 99. I mean why wouldn,t it run when the markets have gone nutso but would run in previous years

PVO- Still has 12million cash and a absolute meatstick trying to raid or plug something into the company.

GTT- darn I was only looking for a little bounce. The Chiefs sardonic comments and put downs to other people who hold the stock has kinda put me off..... both GTT and Mr C. The responses to Todd as well.

NBL- has a large short position. Sure would be fun if the stock got halted or they pulled some good results.

regards

ralfph



To: russwinter who wrote (708)5/20/2001 2:05:52 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273
 
Russ, pick something for Al's contest - #reply-15824901 ... rules are canadian listings under 3.00 only, you get 10kCdn and 'buy' at friday's closing ask price ... finish is at the last trade price next friday ... your mnp.v is taken already, swg.to is not eligible as its ask is 3.15 ... what about this moy.to you mention? - #reply-15822526 ... imr.v maybe, hasn't had much bounce yet

It's quite fun and educational imho, there have been a number of which i've been made aware through Al's effort ... and a civilised thread too, i like it .... welcome to Winter, btw -g-



To: russwinter who wrote (708)5/22/2001 5:25:32 PM
From: tyc:>  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273
 
Does anyone understand the theory of the "option value" of mining stocks ?

I think it goes something like this;

The value of a mining stock can be likened to a call option where the strike price is cost of producing
the metal. Clearly, if the price of metal falls below the cost of production ( the strike price) the mine
still has market value based on the the probability that metal prices will rise in the future. The higher
the volatility of the metal price, the higher the value of the mine even though currently uneconomic, or
marginally economic..

When metal prices rise, the stock prices that will show the most leverage are those that are closest to
the strike price, i.e. the marginal mines.

More precisely, it is like a whole series of options extending into the future for the life of the mines
reserves. Given the volatility of metal prices, distant production becomes more valuable because of
the possibility of ever higher metal prices.

It seems to me that this is where the hedged miners lose out. Imagine a marginal mine that has
hedged its production very close to the cost of production. Clearly there would be very little
leverage. Their hedging has forfeited the "option value" of their stock by eliminating volatility of metal
prices as it refers to them.

Is this bafflegab or sense ?