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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 5:27:03 PM
From: yard_man	Respond to of 436258

Nice way of putting that ... have to remember it. >>Haim, i agree...in a way, when you push up asset prices, you are shorting the confetti you use to buy the assets with<<

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 5:29:59 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Good points, lumbar prices have been moving on up recently also. Do you like any paper/lumbar stocks now, Heinz? Looks like GP and IP have recently had nice breakouts, LPX also (but looks clearly extended).

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 6:04:02 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

I wonder what ASA is going to do with the money -- anybody hear anything quote.yahoo.com

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 6:26:35 PM
From: Terry Whitman	Respond to of 436258

You summed it all up in that post. Nice work!

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 6:39:38 PM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Respond to of 436258

nice! once again

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/18/2001 8:53:50 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Good one! <<push up asset prices ... shorting the confetti you use to buy the assets with>> and when no normal assets (stocks, long bonds, real estate)are good any more, folks go for the pure useless ancient commodities, in solid, liquid and gaseous states, bars, coins, barrels, tanks, or, in the ground. <<tech stocks and similar deflation proxies are a different kettle of fish, since their assets aren't worth anything>> and to keep fish fresh smelling, one needs lots of electricity. Coincidentally, to keep the ancient commodities fresh in the ground, one needs to have unaffordable electricity. Neat, the symetry, the poetic justice, the denounment, the spank for Uncle Greenspanky. Chugs, Jay

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/20/2001 2:18:40 PM
From: Don Lloyd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

hb - washingtonpost.com "Power Outage Blankets Most of Iran The Associated Press Sunday, May 20, 2001; 6:26 a.m. EDT TEHRAN, Iran –– A sweeping power outage caused by an unexplained technical problem left nearly all of Iran without electricity on Sunday, an Energy Ministry official said. Outages were reported in Tehran and at least six provincial capitals that are among Iran's biggest cities: Isfahan, Shiraz, Tabriz, Kermanshah, Qazvin and Hamedan...." Does Gov. Davis have an alibi? -g- Regards, Don

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/20/2001 2:22:35 PM
From: Lee Lichterman III	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Great post! I did some work on the COT stuff and made charts showing the Long versus short results both from the beginning of the SPX and then zoomed in from 96 to present which is around when they started tracking the DOW and NDX futures also. Looks like they are hedging the long DOW short NDX at the current time but are net short via the SPX as of last Tuesday. The scope of the amount that the commercials are short when viewed historically is mind boggling! marketswing.com marketswing.com Good Luck, Lee

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (103339)	5/20/2001 10:00:49 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

I like the way this guy writes about AG -- gold-eagle.com >>Thus, Greenspan is now committing two classic errors of the undisciplined trader. He has become wedded to his intellectual position, rather than marking the trade to market critically and he is seeking refuge from a losing proposition by shifting his timeframe from shorter to longer term to justify its retention. It is a shame that he is not in fact on a desk, for then we would have a Chief Dealer to come and tell him to cut it. Unfortunately, the reality is that while Greenspan merely risks the vestiges of his reputation, it is we who will bear the ultimate cost of settling his gamble. <<