To: 2MAR$ who wrote (13747 ) 5/19/2001 3:41:33 PM From: Greg or e Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 "let it be discussed and talked about , without the rancor." I like the words of the song that go.... "Even if it's only once or twice, I could listen to my own advise, I'd be ALLLLLright." (Pied Pumpkin) Are you really that thick? Your initial statement comes on the heals of an extremely insulting characterization of two of the world's major Religions,(and by implication, their followers) as archaic, and delirious. So you start your post, as usual, with an insult and then proceed to ask for less rancor? "a subject worth earnest meaningful discussion, without personal attacks and condemnations." It most certainly is, but unfortunately, this appears to be beyond your capabilities. As far as personal attacks go, I, and millions, possibly billions, of other people on this planet have a firmly rational, and heartfelt belief that God himself is personal. When you, or anyone else, attacks the person and character of God Almighty, calling him a liar and a thief, then how much more personal an attack can you imagine. People like you and your buddy Solon, don't merely disagree with the bible, and the God revealed therein, you hate both God, and His Word. The objections stem from this hatred, not as is claimed, the other way around. This is apparent to all with a brain. I am merely stating the obvious. Frankly, I'm surprised that your not more honest about it. If you read my posts to others here you will find that I am very willing to engage in rational discourse. Rarely do I throw the first stone, but I am not going to sit by and allow blasphemous, untrue, and inflammatory accusations against my Lord and Savior go unanswered. Especially when they are simply the parroting of old and discredited arguments. That being said I would hardly characterize my response to Solon as "vehement" in fact it was done with genuine sadness. You don't seem to be able to live your philosophy. If everyone is right, all is one, and nothing on this plane of existence reflects true reality, then what are you getting so exercised about? Your claims of wisdom belie something else. NOT! time for you to leave grasshopper Greg