To: Lane3 who wrote (13768 ) 5/19/2001 9:07:59 PM From: The Philosopher Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 Chris, you're going to continue to see things as long as you look at the discussion we're having here from a religion-centric perspective rather than from a management/ethical/legal perspective. I don't see it from either. I see it from a personal rights perspective. Ashcroft isn't discriminating against or harrassing anybody. If he were, that would be wrong. But he isn't. You said that my example of a rape victims support group wasn't relevant, but virtually all people who have been raped are women. (Especially those in government, since most male rapes happen in prison when one is being "cared for" by the government instead of hired by the government.) So effectively this would be a sex based group. Yet you don't seem to see any problem with that. You're also ruling out the possibility of a handicapped employee meeting in his office with one or two other handicapped employees to discuss ways to cope. That's one of your protected groups. The difference between us, I think, is that while I completely support policies against discrimination or harrassment on the basis of sex, religion, etc., I don't extend that to discussions involving those subjects which aren't discriminatory or harrassing. And I think there are a whole lot more serious problems our country faces and needs to deal with than someone holding bible study sessions, or breastfeeding discussions (definitely sexual) or spousal relationship (marital status) or coping (disabled) sessions, or even chatting about how they long to take a family search vacation to Ireland (national origin). I wish the critics and press who are spending so much time harping on this would exert the same energies to solving the energy crisis, or finding peace in the Middle East, or even providing affordable housing right here at home and ending child poverty. But no, it's easier to find fault with someone else than a solution within yourself.