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To: dougSF30 who wrote (40887)5/22/2001 3:19:15 PM
From: dale_laroyRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
>"But *some* P4 benches, like that older Anand one, show a smooth curve.

So, as someone on here (you?) suggested earlier, perhaps a stepping screwed something up?"<

It might have to do with one or more of several factors, almost all involving granularity.

The relatively smooth curves could result from the granularity of the plotting points. A plot of only arrays that are powers of two would look significantly different than a plot of arrays in 4KB sized steppings.

The anomalies could result from thrashing of the 8KB L1 cache at particular data set sizes, and could be influenced by fragmentation of the memory map by the PMMU, a situation that might be increased in a DP system.

The anomalies could be cause by voltage fluctuations resulting from improper traces on the system board or an overloaded power supply. I remember that the first prototype board we produced for the 25 MHz AMD29K rang so severely that what started out as a +5v/-5v clock signal was at +12.5v/-9v by the time it got to the processor. If such an effect were to occur, even to a lesser extent, in the P4, the result could be a clock signal at a couple of tenth of a higher voltage than nominal.



To: dougSF30 who wrote (40887)5/22/2001 5:46:48 PM
From: PetzRespond to of 275872
 
I still think it could be the BIOS that is un-throttling the P4 at a 1 ms rate. Intel might have determined that under worst case conditions, the hot-spot thermal diode will re-throttle the P4 soon enough to avoid burnout. Or the change to the throttling behaviour could be in the microcode that gets downloaded by the BIOS at bootup. That would make more sense because I doubt the BIOS gets control every millisecond.

Petz