To: Greg or e who wrote (14118 ) 5/23/2001 9:45:30 AM From: Solon Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 the one who called Jesus a horse thief, and then made a point of how the text said colt, and every one should know that a colt was a young horse We don't know what Jesus stole for sure. "Horse thief" is simply a vernacular. The flippancy of language (donkey thief simply doesn't have the ring!) was irrelevant to the point of the discussion which was that the writer writing in 130 AD was ignorant of the Hebrew translation just as he was ignorant of the Book of Micah, etc.. As I remember it, I had posted a web link (regarding Jesus stealing the colt), in which the author had chosen to use the term "horse thief"--taking advantage of the pejorative associations in our culture. Neocon and I simply adhered to the argument which was entirely separate and irrelevant to what kind of horse was actually being referred to. A donkey is indeed a member of the horse family or Equidae . It is for this reason that a jack can mate with a pinto. His was an accurate, eyewitness account . There is not ONE eyewitness account of Jesus in the New Testament gospels. NOT ONE. How could there be? There are no mentions of any existing gospels before about 150 BC. And the only place we find any of it in history is when we find myths copied from older religions before the alledged life of Jesus. There is no birth of Jesus, nom death, and no birthplace. There is no life of Jesus otheer than one or three years of miracles and myths (depending on which gospel one wishes to humour). The gospels were third person accounts. They were not written in the first person as eyewitness accounts are. Luke and Matthew are clearly just embellishments of Mark. The average life span then was about 30 years. Few people lived past 60. If a gospel Jesus had walked the earth there would have been a great deal of evidence. There is absolutely NONE. And the contradictions, confusions, and diverse accountings of the gospels can only be ignored by the soundest sleepers.infidels.org Stand in front of the mirror and practice saying "I'm fat, I'm lazy, and sometimes, I'm just plain wrong Well, I tried your suggestion. Perhaps I simply ought to eat more...I can ever remember hearing you say that word, (wrong) I'm sorry to hear that. I will be sure to send you a free ticket next time I make an error that is any of your business. You shall have a grandstand seat, since you seem titillated by the idea!