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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (14554)	5/27/2001 12:24:44 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I hope you enjoy your island. The history of utopias isn't very good. I did a minor bit of study of them, since I grew up in an intentional community which started a about 8 families, close knit. They had looked at various utopian / intentional communities (they were big in the 30s, loosely defined as a close knit group which decides to establish a living community without recourse to external law and, usually, based on the principles of consensus and community agreement as to any governnance which seems needed) and realized that in every case they started out with the best intentions, but fell apart within a few years because of an inability to agree on various rules as more and more situations arose and consensus became harder and harder to achieve. So this community (I wasn't quite born then, though my parents were married by then and part of the founding group) decided to set up a structure up front. The community is still going strong after 60 years. As far as I know, no other intentional living community started in the same timeframe is still in existence. Because of growing up in such an environment, I have a lifetime interest in intentional and utopian communities. I have never found a non-religious community which has lasted as long as Bryn Gweled did. Of course, you are the one person in the world who can overcome these problems and form the only sucessful intentional lifving community ever to survive more than one generation without a defined starting structure and agreed rules of governance. Good luck. As a student of these communities, I look forward to studying your success.