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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (14559)	5/27/2001 12:55:44 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I hope you enjoy your island. My point that I could live on an island with reasonable and benevolent people provided none of them had supernatural imput, does not imply that I am going to live on one. It was an academic exercise. Clearly, a dozen people on an island could never wield the weaponry to hold off even a thousand irrational people after 500 cases of beer. I wasn't talking about Utopia. I was illustrating my belief that a community without the supernatural is more benign and secure than one with priests and clubs. It was a simple response to Karen giving my thoughts that such an arrangement would be workable. Some day there may only be a dozen humans living. Then they can decide whether they live in the jungle or the town. I have never found a non-religious community which has lasted as long as Bryn Gweled did. Just for the Hell of it, why don't you give us a breakdown on the number of non religious communities which you have compared to the religious communities? Is it still so very common for those without otherwordly ideals to retreat to the Garden of Eden?! Personally, I suspect that most rational people have little interest in living in communities isolated from the larger picture. I don't. The world needs a little appetite and uncertainty. There was a Cary Grant movie many years ago. I forget the name, but he was the picture of ennui. He was a billionaire and the most expensive wines, etc. were as nothing. Life was vapid to him and without meaning. He started working as an ordinary person surviving without recourse to his many dollars and rediscovered an appetite for life. This is why I find the idea of heaven so ludicrous. Perhaps that is why people have always been so afraid to make up very much about heaven. Even the gospel writers not ditched by the Fathers invented little about heaven. People are terrified of the concept. Having said that--if you know anything about it--I would really love to hear ;)