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To: Paul Engel who wrote (41292)	5/27/2001 8:18:56 AM
From: niceguy767	Respond to of 275872

Paul: "Granted, Crackserver and Workstations-For-Cheap will design in these AthWIpers4US - and AMDroids will buy them - but hey - you and NG and your ilk ain't gonna make AMD any money on this. " Sounds like a rewording of your general commentary on the Athy, and the Athlon 4...Probably turn out to be about as accurate a predictor as well!!!

To: Paul Engel who wrote (41292)	5/27/2001 9:14:52 AM
From: dale_laroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

>Intel has dual XEONS - 1.7 GHz - already designed into - and shipping in - workstations.< Considering how much faster the Athlon 4 is on applications, such as 3DStudio Max, vendors seriously into the visualization market would be running a big risk by not offering an Athlon 4 based workstation. Remember, the users of workstations don't buy into all the raw MHz bull.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (41292)	5/27/2001 4:45:41 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"Do you really think that saving $900 (TOPS) is worth the risk (for an OEM) of putting an unstable, unproven and potentially unreliable system out into a customer's hands - when Intel is providing compelling solutions that are already road-tested and proven?" Since when are the Xeons and the i860 road-tested and proven? Weren't both of them just released?

To: Paul Engel who wrote (41292)	5/27/2001 5:40:30 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Paul: unstable, unproven and potentially unreliable system Sounds like P4 to me. Certainly, you can't have your Dual Processor server running a Microsoft OS and claim stability and/or reliability. The "incompatibility" between the two has been well-publicized (regardless of who is to blame for the whole issue). Wrt proven... Foster+i860 is far from that. Only a few million P4s have shipped and Foster+i860 have just now commenced shipments. Not exactly proven technology -fyo