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To: Neocon who wrote (15099)	5/31/2001 3:47:19 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Whoever wrote that particular account does not mention Jesus. And his contemporary (Philo) did not mention Jesus. Of course, some people are simply not impressed with rising from the dead and being witnesssed by multitudes, or by miracles of restoring life to dead people-you know, all those things that people just don't wanna talk about... Fortunately, a century or two later they started getting impressed. Hmmm.

To: Neocon who wrote (15099)	6/1/2001 8:18:30 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I refer you to article three in that rather long post... 3. Essays on contemporary subjects. These include On the Contemplative Life, a eulogy of the Therapeutae sect; the fragmentary Hypothetica (“Suppositions”), actually a defense of the Jews against anti-Semitic charges to which Josephus' treatise Against Apion bears many similarities; Against Flaccus, on the crimes of Aulus Avillius Flaccus, the Roman governor of Egypt, against the Alexandrian Jews and on his punishment; and On the Embassy to Gaius, an attack on the Emperor Caligula (i.e., Gaius) for his hostility toward the Alexandrian Jews and an account of the unsuccessful embassy to the Emperor headed by Philo. Certainly those mentioned are mainly about Alexandrian subjects. But such major events as a true Messiah might have merited attention, at least a passing comment, don't you think? Or comparing Herod's alleged acts to those of Caligulam perhaps? And his knowledge of Jerusalem and the area - and it's religions - may not have been so limited as you imply... again from your post: Philo appears to have been dissatisfied with his life in the bustling metropolis of Alexandria: He praises the Essenes—a Jewish sect who lived in monastic communities in the Dead Sea area—for avoiding large cities because of the iniquities that had become inveterate among city dwellers, for living an agricultural life, and for disdaining wealth. BTW, the figure of John the Baptist is strongly associated with the Essenes... again, something Philo might have remarked upon with a connection to Jesus? Certainly Philo does not sound likely to omit any mention of a Messiah who could draw such crowds, cause such stirring and outrage among the Jewish authorities, and who was surely a notable figure of the time. Not even a passing comment during his pilgrimage(s?) to Jerusalem? Lastly, you point to this: A number of works ascribed to Philo are almost certainly spurious. Most important of these is Biblical Antiquities, an imaginative reconstruction of Jewish history from Adam to the death of Saul, the first king of Israel. I rather doubt that this is what Gauvin refers to... he mentions an account covering the NT period - i.e., contemporary works.