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To: S100 who wrote (12130)	6/3/2001 11:41:51 AM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric L: Gent is confident in more ways than one. Note: [That is the main reason why Gent is now so interested in Japan, and Vodafone's growing investment there. The group has amassed a 45 per cent stake in Japan Telecom, and a similar stake in JPC, the Japanese mobile company, thanks to a series of deals with BT and AT&T.] He is confident that the group can soon take control of the business. So with 45% ownership Gent is "confident" of control "soon". Since he owns a similar 45% of Verizon Wireless in the US, is he confident of control there too - just when, not if? Comment? Best. Chaz

To: S100 who wrote (12130)	6/3/2001 12:00:44 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

re: How fast is ... WCDMA at DoCoMo? << Japan has already rolled out a forerunner to a full 3G service >> Forgetting peak rates for a moment, I think all of us are interested in what typical average throughput is going to be under varying conditions when we start to use third generation services. Regardless, I've frequently heard Rich Sulpizio say, that when DoCoMo launched it would be at rates of 64 kbps. CDG has frequently been quoted recently saying the same thing. On the other hand, DoCoMo is insistent that service will be offered from the beginning using high-speed packet data communications with maximum downlink throughputs of 384kbps and 64kbps on the uplink (i-mode). I just visited the FOMA site (which continues to be updated) and this is repeated: foma.nttdocomo.co.jp It is interesting that the video phone (M-stage visual) is using 64 kbps circuit switched (which is the Manx trick). ... and there are some confusing statements on the site like these: "The packet communications service offers a maximum throughput of 384kbps for downlink communications, and calculates the communications charge based on the volume of data sent and received. The 64kbps data communications service is ideal for sending and receiving large-volume data in real time" ... FOMA offers two types of data communications service packet communications with a maximum 384kbps downlink speed,and 64kbps data communications Evidently "64kbps data communications" is the circuit switched side. Interesting to see if in fact maximum packet throughput of 384kbps for downlink communications is being used, if it is ever achieved, and if so, how this translates into a typical effective user rate, at this early juncture ... and in the future. - Eric -

To: S100 who wrote (12130)	6/3/2001 5:35:24 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Chris Gent, or the writer quoting, also seem to have a problem with the definition of "Europe" vs "UK and Germany". The writer got one important, added point very right in terms of "after auction markets": "It could also, of course, give Vodafone access to yet more of the spectrum which is every mobile operator's life blood" The european countries belonging to EMU has of course discussed this for a long time already, and I'm sure UK and Chris Gent are somewhat informed. Same as the shot across the bow that interest and auction costs can not be moved from auction region to another. But UK got their tax cuts, the lifeblood of their economy, and now they need to figure out how to live with them in the future. (they could start by closing some of simplest loopholes for London based tax evasion within EU, invest in something more productive) Ilmarinen P.S. For those who have not followed, ever since Thatcher the tax evasion business of London has been on the EU agenda. Tax evasion is only supported for small islands and otherwise developing regions, Monaco, Luxemburg, Switzerland, etc have already set up a strategy for gradually decreasing that lucrative business of profiting from the more responsible nations.