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Strategies & Market Trends : Steve's Channelling Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Eddy Blinker who wrote (16990)6/3/2001 3:17:20 PM
From: ok1day  Respond to of 30051
 
No...actually I only assume you are and therefor will not waste my time in a response.

Please go back and read Zeev's many posts regarding this topic. Maybe you can learn something.

Shalom

Ossnat



To: Eddy Blinker who wrote (16990)6/3/2001 3:41:01 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 30051
 
Eddy, in 1948, the Israeli side had "hot heads" just like Hamas and Ishbala (these were the Lehi and Etzel groups that had dreams of a state spanning both sides of the Jordan). David Ben Gurion, then the leader of the "state en route", the equivalent of Arafat now in Palestine, has made it very clear, there will be no state if independent military organizations each implement their own policies, and he forcefully disarmed these faction. When they tried to bring in weapons in, he ordered the sinking of the ship. Two, three such decisive actions resolved the factional problems, and civilian policy finally could be implemented with the military forces under stern control of the civilian government. Mind you, David Ben Gurion's actions were much more difficult, then what Arafat is facing. After all, it was just three years after the end of the holocaust, and having to face the horrors of the possibility of "Jews killing Jews", was unbearable, but the alternative was chaos. He was determined and willing to pay the price to have the civilian authority dictating the military actions. That is how democracies work the world over. That kind of leadership is what Arafat has to demonstrate, he has his own factions of "Palestine spanning both sides of the Jordan", just as Ben Gurion had, and he must show the leadership necessary to deal with the reality that these factions prevent him from having a state on any foot print.

Zeev



To: Eddy Blinker who wrote (16990)6/3/2001 9:09:52 PM
From: Paul A  Respond to of 30051
 
Thank you for that post Eddy...

I too dont see things quite the way the media is selling me.. Not that I agree with either side, but to say there is a right or wrong side in this conflict is absolutely ridiculous.. Very sad..