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To: w0z who wrote (9884)6/5/2001 1:15:27 PM
From: James Calladine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10921
 
AMAT CONSUMER ADVERTISING:

I echo your comments completely.

In Advertising 1.0 (even before Advertising 1.01) you learn:

1) Decide on WHAT it is you have to offer
2) Decide on WHO it is you are appealing to
3) Target them directly by skillful use of media

The general public are not:

-- semiconductor companies with their own fabs
-- semiconductor foundries

The general public are not even aware of the semiconductors
used INSIDE the products they purchase, let alone which
semi-equipment company's tools were used for some part of the process.

If AMAT wants to talk to investors, they can target them
infinitely easier, and much more cheaply. There are a huge number of Internet financial sights on which AMAT could buy banners for relatively peanuts. And many other possibilities as well.

If AMAT were a near-term candidate for the website
FuckedCompany.com OR a stupidly managed dotcom company
run by people with a bet-the-farm mentality, such behavior
would at least be understandable.

No question, AMAT is a truly great company. But this is not how they got there.

Namaste!

Jim



To: w0z who wrote (9884)6/5/2001 4:37:45 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 10921
 
Bill,

Your post sounded nice, however you still did not answer the initial question I posed: Can ANYONE name me 1, that is ONE, company with 10B in sales with no advertising or commercials?



To: w0z who wrote (9884)6/6/2001 1:26:45 AM
From: JOHN N.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10921
 
Very good points Bill. Of course, you have to realize that the public awareness program is being sponsored by Carly Fiorina. After all, Isn't it that type of performance that justifies a start up bonus of $40 million and a similar annual salary at HP? No wonder the rest of the company had to have pay cuts to offset her outrageous salary. Was it really worth it?



To: w0z who wrote (9884)6/8/2001 3:10:54 PM
From: Kirk ©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10921
 
The only other company doing advertising as stupid is (unfortunately) my previous employer for 27 years...Agilent Technologies.

Oh come one Bill. Didn't we all just send letters to our ISPs to demand that they buy routers with "Agilent Inside" stickers on them? I know I won't use an optical mouse unless it has Agilent components inside....

LOL

[end tongue in cheek mode]

Kirk out