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To: average joe who wrote (1671)6/6/2001 12:24:57 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
Re: So? Gus, you think any type of free enterprise is the mafia or the Bilderberger!! I mean really - give it a break. You got a free education in Canada did you expect a cradle to the grave plan for yourself here??

Like you Joe, I'm a strong supporter of the Albanian "free enterprise".... As for my education in Canada, it was not free: the Canadian embassy granted me a visiting student visa provided I could prove I had over CAD 9,500.00 to pay my tuition & accomodation costs... Anyway, the first time I travelled to Edmonton, the guys over there (Ken and Jim) offered me a job so, no bad blood about my Canadian tour...

Re: Don't blame a person or a race for success, because if you do you will need to fall back on wild conspiracy theories to prop it up...

Likewise, "Don't blame a person or a race for failure, because if you do you will need to fall back on wild conspiracy theories to prop it up."

Re: Those Russkies are adding something to that society, i.e. skills and genes. I don't see the Palestinian attracting many new immigrants. I can see the brochure "Come to Palestine and follow Yasser, the man in the funny toque"

Genes?! Whatever next... The Palestinians might not have attracted many immigrants indeed but Japan too doesn't attract many immigrants. However, as a pool of cheap labor, Palestinians did attract many a Jewish investor eager to contract his textile/foodstuff business out to sweatshops in Israel's economic backyard and export the output to the EU.

Gus.



To: average joe who wrote (1671)6/6/2001 9:28:40 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Arafat should be made defunct immediately and the Palestinian people re-located.

Wow.. I'm not even so hawkish to advocate relocating millions of people... :0)

But this does highlight a major issue. The Israelis don't want to annex the West Bank Palestinian population into their country because it would drastically distort the voting demographics.

But neither do the Israelis want a potentially hostile Palestinian state developing on the West Bank either, thus the collection of settlements they have built, which are essentially security strongpoints.

If this were TRULY just about the Palestinians having their own state, then it would be relatively easy to solve. All they would have to do is model themselves after Costa Rica, which has no standing army, thus posing absolutely no significant military threat to Israel. Then the onus would be on Israel to show why they would require additional settlements for their security.

So long as Arafat continues to take the military approach, he provides th primary excuse for Israel to increase it's military presence on the West Bank.

After all, there is no peace treaty between Syria and Israel. And Saddam Hussein has threatened numerous times to invade Israel through Jordan (which could do little to stop him).

Oh well... we all know that it's only a matter of time until such events as you mention will take place. The handwriting is on the wall. With the next major war, probably between Syria, Iraq, and Israel, the Palestinians WILL be expelled into Jordan. And Jordan will probably be an country occupied by Iraq. I personally believe that there will be additional subversion against King Abdullah that will force his abdication, or his being turned into a mere figurehead, in favor of a Palestinian government.

Hawk