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To: Ilaine who wrote (107431)	6/7/2001 9:33:10 PM
From: At_The_Ask	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

I cannot testify to the truth of those snippets that you posted. Maybe some or none is true. If he suspects that KUHN Loeb is up to something is he not allowed to say so because they are Jewish? What proof do you have that these statements are not true? Many people, some jewish some not, wish to hasten the fulfillment of biblical prophecy; believing that Jesus will not return until the temple is reconstructed in Jerusalem. Another part of that prophecy requires the restoration of Israel; which is why he mentioned it. WW3(Armageddon) will likely be fought over this issue as the moslems will do anything to prevent the destruction of the Dome of the Rock. My point is that there are plenty of crackpots on both sides. I personally wish all these people would get alife. I dont wish to be around for the next crusade and dont wish my children or my country to be involved either. As for the Freemasons these guys are descendants of the Knights Templar of Crusade fame, and also are believed to be in posession of the arc of the covenant and the holy grail. They are and were very powerful throughout history and do in fact have an agenda. They were very powerful financiers, and were sought out and killed because they had become so powerful. They were not Jewish but were Zionists. The crusades caused alot of people to be killed and many 10 and 12 year olds died fighting in them. I dont care for racists or religous fanatics of any creed or color because they have bad habit of getting people killed. I despise anti semites but I also dont take sides. Many times the moslems get the short end of the stick too. If the UN took over the state of Virginia, siezed my property, kicked everyone out and gave it to the Indians I would be pissed also. Even though They doubtless have a historical claim, were indeed victimized and were the target of organized government sponsered genocide. Whats the difference?

To: Ilaine who wrote (107431)	6/7/2001 9:40:23 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

once a person becomes communist, they're no longer jewish. many would argue that zionists aren't jewish, either. i can speak freely about these issues because i myself am jewish. andy

To: Ilaine who wrote (107431)	6/7/2001 9:45:16 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

--financing of Trotsky and Lenin in 1917-- you know, sutton wrote very many interesting books on this subject. i actually went and dug up some of the microfiche he referred to in his books, and indeed there were at least some wealthy americans - not all of them 'jewish' - funding the reds in petrograd. the whole thing is highly complex, but to believe that conspiracy is not a commonplace occurence; that's simply misguided. "there's somethin' going on here but you don't know what it is, mr. jones." andy

To: Ilaine who wrote (107431)	6/7/2001 10:20:22 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 436258

< He's talking about the Rothschilds, who are Jewish, the Warburgs, who are Jewish> It's my recollection from some historical brain cell [that may be faulty] that in certain societies including German [Heinz?] many Jews ended up in 'trading' including money because they were not allowed to go into "proper" professions such as Shoemakers and such. DAK

To: Ilaine who wrote (107431)	6/8/2001 1:57:30 AM
From: Ken98	Read Replies (8) \| Respond to of 436258

CB, the Warburb/Loeb influence on the formation of the frb is well enough documented that the mere mention of their names should not be considered anti-Semitic: minneapolisfed.org mises.org tax-freedom.com The fact that they were Jewish is irrelevant to me, and I don't have a clue what the Illuminati are/were. The important questions for me have always been and remain (and I challenge you to use your excellent research skills to answer any or all of these): 1. What was the ownership of the frb at the time it was formed? Based on what I have been able to determine from non-kookoid sources, the Loeb/Morgan/Rockefeller/Rothschild contingent did in fact play a critical role in the formation of, and initial ownership of, the frb. 2. What is the present ownership of the frb? I can't find anything other than the "member" banks own it. In fact, I challenge you to find the names of the Class "A" directors of the frb-ny. It took me some time. Who owns the "member" banks? 3. What is the present ownership of the frb-ny? What is it's ownership percentage of the frb? I find it interesting that it was the frb-ny that did the ltcm bailout and not the bd of governors. 4. Why is an organization as important to the health and well being of every American so shrouded in secrecy? While the activities of the FOMC are somewhat transparent, the activities of the frb-ny are not. 5. Do any foreign banking interests presently own interests (directly or indirectly) in the frb or the frb-ny? Irrespective of the emotional hype, this remains a very powerful organization that lies beyond political accountability and, thus, it's motives are inherently suspect. Is it acting in the best interest of all Americans or some other interest? I perceive you to be a libertarian of sorts and these questions should be troubling to you as such - they are to me. Best regards, Ken