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To: EnricoPalazzo who wrote (14845)	6/8/2001 1:35:07 AM
From: Dr. Id	Respond to of 22706

But truly, no disrespect for Shaq or Kareem I think to put Kareem in the same sentence as Shaq is somewhat disrespectful. In his prime, Kareem was the most unstoppable offensive weapon in the game. The sky hook was unguardable. In fact, in a reverse of present day officiating policy, the officials used to let opposing centers get away with murder just to try to neutralize him (remember Dave Cowens burrowing his shoulders into Kareem's side?) Kareem was so dominate that they legislated the dunk out of college basketball because of him. And, Kareem had the complete game. Great scorer, rebounder, passer, defender. And he was a clutch free-thrower (I remember a huge game against Philadelphia, Lakers down by two with no time left, Kareem at the line...and he buried them). Dr.Id@takeawaythedunkandShaqisTheBigNothing.com

To: EnricoPalazzo who wrote (14845)	6/8/2001 10:15:14 AM
From: Apollo	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 22706

but what does that have to do with my contention that he's one of the best scorers since 1980?<?i> That wasn't your contention. Your contention was that Iverson was "one of only three truly great scorers in the last two decades". Big difference between one of the best and one of three. You're changing your contentions, making you contentious. Allen Iverson gets 40 looks at the basket a game whenever he wants. In his wildest dreams, Ray Allen could never get 40 looks at the basket. He doesn't have half the game required for that. I haven't watched much of Ray Allen, until the Eastern Conference finals. In that series, he showed me he could create his own shot when he wants. Therefore, if he was on a team in which he was the sole scorer, I think he would get 40 looks, both on his own, and by design, just as Larry Brown has done for and with Iverson; in fact, just as Larry Brown did for and with Reggie Miller with Indiana back in the 90s. Obviously, we don't see this from Ray Allen, because he is a TEAM player, and his team has at least 2 other excellent scoring threats. As for flopping... I don't know what games you've been watching. I didn't see him falling to the ground against Lue... I never said he was flopping against Lue. What I said is that Iverson falls to the ground and out of bounds as an attention-getting device, for the reasons that Idley outlined. What annoys me about Iverson is that his flops are more in quantity and more exaggerated than other superstars. That's based on watching a lot of the televised 76er games this year. So let's see. Let's watch the games of this series, and everybody watch Iverson and see how many times he goes ping ponging off of everyone, and careening out of bounds....and ask yourself if it seems a little exaggerated given the contact. ca