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To: tcmay who wrote (137056)	6/8/2001 10:57:30 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Macs were and are extremely popular in Santa Cruz, for various reasons. For anyone who knows Santa Cruz, no explanation is necessary. I happen to be in Santa Cruz as I type.

To: tcmay who wrote (137056)	6/9/2001 8:24:00 AM
From: jackrabbit	Respond to of 186894

Re: "a doubling of [Apple's] market share is quite possible, even probable" Anything is possible, but as a former Mac user, I don't see why it is probable. First, there is just so much more software available for Wintel -- go to any store and almost the whole floor space is devoted to Wintel software, and the Mac stuff is off in a tiny corner. Second, the vast majority of businesses use Wintel, and people generally like to have a home system that is fully compatible with what they use at work. Third, Apple used to own the education market, but Dell and others have made huge inroads there (which is devastating because Apple used to build brand loyalty through the school years only to have it taken away when the user entered the workforce). Finally, Microsoft is constantly "innovating" (i.e. copying) and most gaps in performance, ease of use, etc. are closing and will continue to do so. I will agree that based on my experience (mid 80s to early 90s), Mac was much easier to set up, and somewhat easier to use day to day. It also has a quirky elegance that will always appeal to a minority of users. But I myself would not go back, and I know too many others who have switched to Wintel to believe that Apple will have a great resurgence following their current strategy.

To: tcmay who wrote (137056)	6/10/2001 4:16:57 PM
From: Saturn V	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tim and Dave, Ref <Mac and Wintel > I acknowledge the technical superiority of the Mac platform even today. However The Mac was on order of magnitude better than Wintel ten years ago. Ten years ago very little GUI software existed on the Wintel platform. Despite these advantages, the Mac was unable to improve its market share, and even lost market share. Today the situation in GUI software favors Wintel, and the technical gap is a lot smaller. How can the Mac double its market share in a year! The marketing odds against this happening are overwhelming ! In the early nineties, I invested in Apple to hedge my Intel position. I was also concerned that no one was interested in improving the Wintel hardware, and so Apple could have had a field day with new innovations! However a few years later I sold my Apple holdings. Intel Architecture Labs took on the task of improving the hardware of the Wintel platform. Innovations like USB, the PCI bus, AGP etc have continued to improve the Wintel hardware. Apple innovations outside the Mac did not bear fruit. The Newton reminds me of the first GUI computers out of PARC.{ A good idea abandoned too early !). So I have not seen Apple as a threat to the Wintel platform for several years.