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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (441)6/12/2001 12:23:19 AM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1715
 
Re: A.B. 1890 and electricity pricing: cost plus does provide stability and predictable income; however, what incentive does it give to restrain those costs? Another feature of A. B. 1890 was payment to the utilities for all the money they had sunk in projects like abandoned nuclear plants. The tradeoff for the consumer was supposed to be mandatory rate cuts starting in 2001 or 2002. Well, we all know how THAT worked out.

Also, I never understood why PG&E and SocCalEd would agree to those Spot market and Day-Ahead market prices which you accurately characterize as being the height of folly. Could it be that they thought the ol' cost-plus formula would kick in again and save them? After all, they hadn't had to worry too much about costs and prices before...they had always been able to pass them on. It's tough to change that mindset.

What I see clearly is that the continuance of wise contract law and the enforcement thereof is the bedrock of our society.

I agree.

There must be a fair exchange, and a stable one for the economy to work.

I would say the whole electricity trading system needs to be looked at, and more safeguards put it to reduce the gaming aspect. (This is already happening, "Electricity traders' tech habits scrutinized," www0.mercurycenter.com But IMO stability is best attained not by the government dictating "a fair profit" but leveling the playing field for competition and ensuring that consumers can get the information they need to make rational decisions. (And by consumers I mean not just individuals but businesses and municipal governments). The CA state government was trying to game the system themselves with A. B. 1890, putting in "something for everyone" to get the bill passed, trying to set prices by fiat...lots of luck.

So let me flip the question to you. If the absence of a "cost-plus" price for electricity means that the California economy is sent into recession and thousands of businesses and tens of thousands of households go BK, have we achieved a good result?

In the short run, no. In the long run, if it gets people thinking about and moving toward better ways of managing and using energy...yeah. Do you think California's growth level is sustainable, or is it overextended? The population is getting bigger every day, people are building farther and farther into the desert..can that be kept up? Many Californians seem to think that since Gray Davis announced that "we've won the war" because electricity and natgas prices have come down, they can stop worrying about it....I don't think so. People in CA and the US have for the most part been pretty comfortable...and when people are comfortable they don't change until it's clear they have to. And I think they're going to have to. We need long term thinking and action about energy and it may take an even bigger crisis to get it.