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To: foundation who wrote (12571)	6/13/2001 8:29:43 PM
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This month's corrections to UMTS Releases 99 and 4 contd: R2-011318 Agreed CR 137r1 to 25.322 on Clarification on RLC re-establishment <CR 138 Rel-4> (Qualcomm, Nortel) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011353 Replaced CR 138 to 25.322 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification on RLC re-establishment (Qualcomm, Nortel) By mistake this CR corresponded to the wrong revision of the R'99 CR. This was corrected in R2-011505. R2-011505 Agreed CR 138r1 to 25.322 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification on RLC re-establishment (Qualcomm, Nortel) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011163 Replaced CR 139 to 25.322 on Corrections and clarifications to the LIST and RLIST SUFI types <CR 140 Rel-4> (Motorola) Ban Al-Bakri (Motorola) presented this CR. Discussion: This document was also presented at the previous meeting. It was stated that this change was backward compatible since it specified the handling of error cases. The backward compatibility analysis would be updated. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011320 (R'99) and R2-011354 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011320 Agreed CR 139r1 to 25.322 on Corrections and clarifications to the LIST and RLIST SUFI types <CR 140 Rel-4> (Motorola) R2-011354 Agreed CR 140 to 25.322 [Rel-4 shadow] on Corrections and clarifications to the LIST and RLIST SUFI types (Motorola) Decision: The CRs were agreed. 6.11 Proposed changes on 25.323 CRs to 25.323 R2-011046 Replaced CR 020 to 25.323 on Clarification on Sequence numbering <CR 021 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Sam Jiang (ASUSTek) presented this CR. Discussion: It was agreed to change "higher layer" to "upper layer" where this was mentioned in the CR (The rest of the spec was updated in this respect at this time). It was pointed out that the names used in section 5.4.1 and 7.1 were different even though they are referring to the same number. It was responded that this was done to not distinguish between uplink and downlink. It was asked why in the third and fourth bullets in section 5.4.1 "PDCP Data PDU" was specified instead of "PDCP PDU". It was agreed that it was fine. Again the backward compatibility analysis was needed. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011321(R'99) and R2-011355 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011321 Agreed CR 020r1 to 25.323 on Clarification on Sequence numbering <CR 021 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) R2-011355 Agreed CR 021 to 25.323 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification on Sequence numbering <CR 021 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011047 Replaced CR 022 to 25.323 on Clarification on Sequence numbering for context state packets <CR 023 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Sam Jiang (ASUSTek) presented this CR. Discussion: It was questioned whether renumbering the PDUs when the context of the compression engine was reset was enough. It was suggested that an incoming LS from SA might shed some light on the issue that is raised by this CR. Decision: An update of the CR was needed. The update would be in R2-011325. R2-011325 Postponed CR 022r1 to 25.323 on Clarification on Sequence numbering for context state packets <CR 023 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Decision: The CR was postponed to WG2#22 in Berlin, as an LS from TSG-SA WG2 was expected. 6.12 Proposed changes on 25.324 CRs to 25.324 There was no input for this agenda item. 6.13 Proposed changes on 25.331 R2-011034 Inconsistencies between Tabular and ASN.1 definitions (Nokia) Gairn Hannell (Nokia) presented this document. Discussion: Decisions were taken on what to do about each of the cases mentioned in the document. Decision: The document was noted. An updated version was provided in R2-011220. R2-011220 Inconsistencies between Tabular and ASN.1 definitions (Nokia) Gairn Hannell (Nokia) presented this document. Discussion: Further decisions were taken on the assignment of CRs and solutions for the remaining cases. Decision: The document was noted. An updated version was provided in R2-011280. R2-011280 Inconsistencies between Tabular and ASN.1 definitions (Nokia) Gairn Hannell (Nokia) presented this document. Discussion: There were still a few open issues. These were discussed and were closed. The remaining ones would be discussed at the next meeting. Decision: The document was noted. R2-011035 RRC state indicator inconsistency handling in RRC connection establishment procedure (Philips) This document was withdrawn. CRs to 25.331 R2-011039 Withdrawn CR 728 to 25.331 on Removal of the IE 'Downlink rate matching restriction information' (10.3.6.31) <CR 729 Rel-4> (Philips) Christoph Herrmann (Philips) presented this CR. Discussion: Takaaki Satoh (NTT DoCoMo) would provide clarifications (in R2-011243, CR 874) instead of this CR. Decision: The CRs were withdrawn. R2-011040 Replaced CR 730 to 25.331 on Clarification of the IE 'spreading factor' in Uplink DPCH info for FDD mode <CR 731 Rel-4> (Philips) Christoph Herrmann (Philips) presented this CR. Discussion: The wording would be changed to "minimum allowed" (also for PRACH). Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011222 (R'99) and R2-011223 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011222 Agreed CR 730r1 to 25.331 on Clarification of the IE 'spreading factor' in Uplink DPCH info for FDD mode <CR 731 Rel-4> (Philips) R2-011223 Agreed CR 731 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification of the IE 'spreading factor' in Uplink DPCH info for FDD mode (Philips) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011041 Replaced CR 732 to 25.331 on Correction of UE Radio Access Capability depending on UTRAN FDD bands <CR 733 Rel-4> (Nortel Networks, Ericsson) Claudiu Mihailescu (Nortel Networks) presented this CR. Discussion: There would be one more bit for future power classes, as it was likely that WG4 would introduce this. There were some editorials also as there were spelling inconsistencies. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011224 (R'99) and R2-011225 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011224 Agreed CR 732r1 to 25.331 on Correction of UE Radio Access Capability depending on UTRAN FDD bands <CR 733 Rel-4> (Nortel Networks, Ericsson) R2-011225 Agreed CR 733 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Correction of UE Radio Access Capability depending on UTRAN FDD bands (Nortel Networks, Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011048 Replaced CR 734 to 25.331 on Clarification on Security mode control <CR 735 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) This document was replaced by R2-011381. R2-011381 Replaced CR 734r1 to 25.331 on Clarification on Security mode control <CR 735 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Sam Jiang (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) presented this CR. Discussion: There were a few comments and the backwards compatibility analysis needed to be done. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011424 (R'99) and R2-011425 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011424 Agreed CR 734r2 to 25.331 on Clarification on Security mode control <CR 735 Rel-4> (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) R2-011425 Agreed CR 735 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification on Security mode control (ASUSTeK Computer Inc.) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011051 Replaced CR 737 to 25.331 on CTFC Calculation in TDD <CR 738 Rel-4> (InterDigital) Steve Terry (InterDigital) presented this CR. Discussion: There was a need for a revision (editorial). Also, CR 759 would be merged into the revision. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011226 (R'99) and R2-011227 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011226 Agreed CR 737r1 to 25.331 on CTFC Calculation in TDD <CR 738 Rel-4> (InterDigital, Ericsson) R2-011227 Agreed CR 738 [Rel-4 shadow] to 25.331 on CTFC Calculation in TDD (InterDigital, Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011052 Replaced CR 739 to 25.331 on TFC Subsets in TDD <CR 740 Rel-4> (InterDigital) Steve Terry (InterDigital) presented this CR. Discussion: This was backward compatible with FDD, not with TDD. A change was needed to describe this. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011228 (R'99) and R2-011229 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011228 Agreed CR 739r1 to 25.331 on TFC Subsets in TDD <CR 740 Rel-4> (InterDigital) R2-011229 Agreed CR 740 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on TFC Subsets in TDD (InterDigital) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011053 Withdrawn CR 741 to 25.331 on UL DPCH Power Control Info <CR 742 Rel-4> (InterDigital) These CRs were withdrawn. R2-011054 Withdrawn CR 743 to 25.331 on MUD/SUD Capability <CR 744 Rel-4> (InterDigital) These CRs were withdrawn. R2-011062 Replaced CR 745 to 25.331 on RRC containers <CR 746 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: An information element had been missed out. It was explained that the proposal was this way, that the backward compatibility issue was on the network only instead of over the air interface, which was why it was proposed like this. It was asked if this big change should not be for Rel-4 instead of R'99; however, the network was involved, so it should be for R'99. No specific problem had been seen, but this proposal would make it future-proof and keep the protocols independent. The HANDOVER_TO_UTRAN command could perhaps fit better in 14.13 rather than in 10 as it is not sent over the radio interface. Decision: An update of the CR was needed. The update would be in R2-011230. R2-011230 Replaced CR 745r1 to 25.331 on RRC containers <CR 746 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: The backwards compatibility analysis needed to be done. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011426 (R'99) and R2-011427 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) would draft an LS to GERAN in R2-011428. R2-011426 Agreed CR 745r2 to 25.331 on RRC containers <CR 746 Rel-4> (Ericsson) R2-011427 Agreed CR 746 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on RRC containers (Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011063 Replaced CR 747 to 25.331 on Minor corrections <CR 748 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Joakim Bergström (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: The section on activation time should be merged with CR 808 on that topic from Nortel Networks, since the section had changed a lot. It was brought in line with WG1 and described both the case where the IE was absent and the case where it was present. There was no default value "now" in the ASN.1 (it was in dicated by the absence of the optional IE). There was also a CR from Nokia on this topic. There were no comments on any other part of the CR. The clarifications caused a discussion on how to interpret backward compatibility in the case of unclear descriptions and conflicting descriptions (see agenda item 6.2). The section on activation time would be merged into CR 808 with some changes in wording. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011232 (R'99) and R2-011233 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011232 Agreed CR 747r1 to 25.331 on Minor corrections <CR 748 Rel-4> (Ericsson, Philips) R2-011233 Agreed CR 748 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Minor corrections (Ericsson, Philips) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011064 Replaced CR 749 to 25.331 on SIB Error handling <CR 750 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: It was not really correct to talk about "messages" for any logical channel ("BCCH message"). There was an editorial change needed. Backward compatibility analysis would be changed to the 'standard' one for clarifications as agreed earlier. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011235 (R'99) and R2-011236 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011235 Agreed CR 749r1 to 25.331 on SIB Error handling <CR 750 Rel-4> (Ericsson) R2-011236 Agreed CR 750 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on SIB Error handling (Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011065 Replaced CR 751 to 25.331 on Elements in strings <CR 752 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: This seemed an ugly way to make the bit ordering unambiguous. It was felt that a comment in text could perhaps be enough. It was explained that this was done to avoid having to refer to "first", "last", "leftmost", "rightmost" etc., which could be misinterpreted. It was commented that "least significant bit" and "most significant bit" seemed strange terminology for a bitstring; instead it should be "leftmost" or "first" or so. It turned out that it was probably not written down anywhere how ASN.1 output was provided to RLC. Consistency with NAS was also an issue. Bitstrings were now used for what were in reality integers, lists of booleans and lists of bits. Each of these categories needed to be looked at separately. After review, it was agreed that the problem was a valid one, but it was also stated that there might be solved differently. It was also clarified that there was no standard with respect to "most significant" is "leftmost" or "rightmost" if there was a tabular version in addition to the ASN.1 (in the ISO X.7xx standard it was different from, say, ISDN). General rules should be specified. It was agreed that the correct way to refer to the first bit of PER output was to say it was "first". With that information, it would be possible to describe the order without having to describe long lists of bits. The general description could be in Section 12. Decision: An update of the CR was needed. The update would be in R2-011332. R2-011332 Agreed CR 751r1 to 25.331 on Elements in strings <CR 752 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011429 (R'99) and Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011429 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011429 Agreed CR 752 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Elements in strings (Ericsson) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011066 Replaced CR 753 to 25.331 on Configuration consistency checks <CR 754 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Anders Berggren (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: There was a CR (CR 822) from Motorola that could be merged, as both CRs aimed at the same goal. Several comments were made on PRACH with different TTI (association is with TFS instead). Decision: An update of the CR was needed, in which CR 822 was merged. The update would be in R2-011241.