To: Greg or e who wrote (17043 ) 6/18/2001 4:39:09 AM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 You would in fact kill the child I am getting a bit tired of you contradicting my answers. Once again, here is where you asked and where I answered:Message 15956015 Let me ask you a question first. Assuming the same child slipped through and was born. WOULD YOU KILL IT???????No. I would not. See how easy it is to answer a question rather than evading it, Greg??? ________________________________________I said nothing about my personal joy so you are the one making stuff up, as usual Maybe you already forget writing this:" I am not in favor of culling humans through abortion at any stage of development for any reason, but a clear danger to the life of the mother. A handicapped child can, and does bring as much joy as so called normal children Your "I am not in favor of culling humans through abortion at any stage of development for any reason" answered my question about the Tay-Sachs embryo, and you then justified your stance with "A handicapped child can, and does bring as much joy as so called normal children." These were both YOUR opinions, and they were both PERSONAL. You ignored the fact that this embryo, if carried to term and born, would be blind, paralyzed, and epileptic--and incapable of experiencing anything but primal pain. Yes, you ignored this but had the effrontery to comment on how much "joy" this wretched and senseless suffering could bring. Do you wish to correct your remarks now and state that it would not bring you "joy" as the parent to know that you were responsible for this hideous suffering?? So what would it bring you?? Remember, this discussion started by asking you to assume the woman's role, and to share your personal opinions as regards a Tay-Sachs embryo .Message 15954637 "Pretend you are a woman, 8 weeks pregnant; you have a CVS done, and you are told that the baby will be born with Tay-Sachs as it lacks an essential enzyme. It will be blind and paralyzed shortly after birth, and will live about 3 years with periodic fits of epilepsy twisting and wracking its tiny body into spasms. Would you act to prevent this primeval organism from experiencing this senseless and tragic suffering and pain?? I am just curious as to what makes you tick." Somehow, in spite of the evasiveness and the twisting--it seems you have answered it, alright. So why, as the woman, would you carry this Tay-Sachs embryo to term?? Why would you do such a cruel thing? You must have a reason. You don't justify something like that by "JOY." Let us pretend that you misspoke, and that you WOULD NOT get any JOY from carrying the embryo to term and birthing it. I don't mind you trying out different answers until you get one right. So what WOULD you get out of that? Why WOULD you cause this suffering for another, that was in your power to avoid? Do you wish to withdraw the "JOY" remark? So why would you do such a thing?Children who are also physically or mentally disabled are first and foremost CHILDREN, they happen to have certain handicaps and for that, you would kill them Again, by stating the oposite of what I said--you are acting like a worm. Some Christian you are.Message 15956015 "No. I would not. See how easy it is to answer a question rather than evading it, Greg???"siliconinvestor.com "I made it explicitly clear in direct response to your question that I WOULD NOT kill any child-perfect or not." So once again, I have stated repeatedly that I would not kill any child. It is against the law, so I am sure the question was insincere in the first place. Your subsequent inability to read my answer, and your rather strange substitution of your own answers for me, is despicable. This discussion started with a meaningful and significant question which I placed before you in order to establish your position on abortion. I think your response shows an unfeeling cruelty, and I am trying to understand if there is something that would somehow soften your determination to see that embryo develop to the point where it can suffer and die, but do absolutely nothing else . I cannot accept your answer. You cannot mean what you said.