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To: ahhaha who wrote (2538)	6/26/2001 9:51:13 PM
From: M. Frank Greiffenstein	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

Ah, the inside joke among Germans is that Kennedy was stating "I am a donut!" A Berliner is a sugar coated bun with a wad of jelly on the inside, like the Polish Paczki. Still, one of the most inspiring speeches of all time. Doc Stone

To: ahhaha who wrote (2538)	6/26/2001 10:05:35 PM
From: Elsewhere	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

ICH BIN EIN BERLINER Thank you for posting the speech. I wouldn't have thought of the anniversary this year. It was a great event in the history of Berlin, and the speech is rated #22 of the top 100 American speeches of the 20th century: news.wisc.edu It is documented at The History Place, historyplace.com at the National Archives and Records Administration with a picture of JFK's speech card nara.gov and at the John Fitzgerald Kennedy Library with a full length Real Audio recording: cs.umb.edu I would probably not be able to post this message to this board without all the support of the USA for Germany. Beating the Hitler regime, maintaining the Berlin airlift while Stalin tried to suffocate the city and being a reliable leader of the western hemisphere for decades were essential for the development of the first stable German democracy. Here are a couple of airlift links: airlift.de semmer.de members.nbci.com dailysoft.com berlin.de Actually I attended the 50-year airlift anniversary celebration in May 1998, one of several hundred thousand visitors. I saw the "Spirit of Berlin" which had just been baptized by Clinton - and had the first doughnuts of my life. My key ring has an airlift picture, and a Douglas DC-3 model is on my desk. And where's the munnee in this message? No munnee without freedom. Thank you, America.

To: ahhaha who wrote (2538)	6/27/2001 9:25:06 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

That's a speech which would never have been necessary if Eisenhower hadn't held back to let the Russians take Berlin. Churchill thought he was nuts - capturing Berlin was the culmination of the Allied war effort in Germany. Patton was irate. He thought it was the worst blunder of the war. Of course, Stalin would have held on to whatever the Russians captured, anyway, but letting the Soviets have part of Berlin wasn't such a good idea. Well, it did do one thing - it showed both the capitalist system and the communist system, side by side, sort of a controlled experiment. I have a piece of the wall - can't think about it without getting tears in my eyes. Last night, by coincidence, I was reading an account of the fall of Berlin, and Hitler's final days. He ordered the army and the police to blow up all the bridges and factories and everything else before the Allies captured it - and Speer drove around persuading people not to obey the orders. The army quit supporting Hitler and many refused to defend Berlin, which was defended by civilians, mostly women, using rocket launchers they carried in wheelbarrows. They were afraid of being raped by the Russians.