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To: quartersawyer who wrote (13229)	7/2/2001 4:22:41 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 34857

Nokia has worked to open standards and industry standard architecture since 1969!! nokia.com Nokia introduced the world's first 30-channel PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) transmission equipment conforming to the standards of CCITT (Consultative Committee on International Telegraphy and Telephony). (1969) ----- PCM, T1 in US, and CCITT later strenghtened into ITU, after lot's of battles of 56/64kbps, patents, incompatible proprietary solutions, submarine patents,etc. --- That is one of the reasons som of Christensens stuff was so ridiculous regarding Nokia as well as telecommunication in general, for anyone who has followed telecommunication which through its own mechanisms works with open standards, long term investments, does not allow markets like IBM mainframes, MSFT,etc to be built. His comments on "where the money goes" and squeezing vendors,etc is also ridiculous, considering for example the DSP market, where Motorola, Lucent, Texas was and where they are now (their DSP departments, the 7 year ago was when Nokia and others switched from Lucent(AT&T) to TI, Motorola itself much later) Engibous has commented on this (prices) a couple of times publicly in that it is the way it should be, and instead of whining TI invests in analog,mixed signal, ARM and RF technology, 300mm wafers, development tools, etc.. (Motorola suing everything which moves is another thing) Ilmarinen P.S. This "Gorilla" thing is pretty childish, the dream of "World Domination", but as long as some companies and CEOs, shareholders dream of it, it is obviously good to point out how it doesn't work, how really "disruptive" it is for corporative culture. (including guys like Buckingham, losing their sense of reality)

To: quartersawyer who wrote (13229)	7/2/2001 9:10:43 AM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

chapq, << Simon Buckingham-- "Nokia, currently the leading handset vendor, has refused point blank to back open standards and continues to support and push its proprietary Smart Messaging alternative." Does Buckingham have an ax to grind? >> Former Vodafoner "Buck" most certainly has an ax to grind. I have not totally figured out why, but Nokia is his favorite target. Part of this centers around EMS. Buck's forte is SMS and its derivatives, and that is what his consultancy specializes in. He consulted to AWS, Verizon, and Telstra (Australia) to implement 2-way SMS in a TDMA and CDMA environments. He is a proponent of EMS as well as MMS. Nokia, did something way back, similar to what DoCoMo did with 'i-mode'. For lack of a standard they developed 'Smart-Messaging ' which has much of the functionality of EMS which Ericsson (with Buck's backing) proposed as a 3GPP standard. Nokia has a large installed base of EMS handsets, and sees EMS as having a very short window, with the world moving 'Smart-Messaging' is proprietary, but more "open" than closed, since Nokia will license to others, and I believe at no charge. It is, none the less proprietary, and I've commented on that on this thread many times over the last 6 months, picking up on comments from "Buck". It appears that Nokia wanted to make 'Smart-Messaging' a de facto standard, and have ignored committee standardization efforts on EMS. It now is ignoring it since it is preparing for MMS, and of course the majors have all coalesced in an initiative around MMS (Mobile Messaging Initiative - MMI) Certainly Nokia's stance in re EMS is a departure from their "dedicated to open standards", hymn. Tero gave his opinion on this here, sometime back. There is more evidently to Buck's negative perspective on Nokia, but I haven't figured out what it is. Perhaps Nokia forgot to take him to lunch, back in his Vodafone days? - Eric -