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To: Rolla Coasta who wrote (2215)	7/8/2001 1:33:40 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

I think you were the one doing all the defining. I was merely ensuring that I properly captured the essence of your perspective. It seemed that you were implying that any accountability of the Chinese government to its people would be tantamount to making them accountable to criminals. Message 16041686 Once they have economic freedom, they can go anywhere Oh give me a break... if chinese people could go anywhere they wanted, they wouldn't be stowing away on boats, or paying smugglers thousands of dollars, or selling themselves into indentured servitude and slavery to leave China. Bejing is happy to export its excess labor overseas to nations that can't absorb it. And that's hardly something to be proud about. And you seem to falsely beleave that economic prosperity can occur without political freedom. That's just not the case, because the foundation that your prosperity is built upon is rotten to the core and will eventually collapse. Economic prosperity is built upon fundamental respect for individual rights and freedoms. The right to elect representatives who owe their allegiance to their political constituency is integral to creating strong economic reform. Respect for individual property rights, and legal due process that is equitable and NOT ARBITRARY, are also integral to economic success. This is the lesson of history QPK.. The Chinese communists might think they can have their "cake and eat it too" but they are wrong. Somewhere down the line economic interests are going to diverge amongst disparate power centers in China. And they we'll see China return to the days of warlords, or a recission of those freedoms. There must be a system created to let people feel they have say in their government. That government must draw its legitimacy from the people, or it will exist only for the political hegemons and/or business entities that provide their personal political backing in the CCP. And I can understand instituing such political representation gradually. But, thus far, I've heard of nothing where political empowerment is being practiced even at the local level. Thus, the people will continue to be exploited, having no representation. Since the greatest portion of people are poor in China, it is in no one else's interest to provide them political empowerment. No.. the economic interests in China are lining up behing different factions in the CCP, each vying to create, extend, and/or preserve their personal political power. And they are accountable to no one but themselves and their political rivals. Do you guarantee me.... I can't guarantee anything.. But India fears China more than the other way around. After all, it was China that invaded Tibet, thus threatening India and trying to cut off all economic ties that had existed between those two countries (as well as the close religious ties). And it was China that launched a coordinated offensive against India in 1962. And I also believe the US has FAR MORE to worry about from Islamic terrorism than China, even taking into account the insurgency in Xiang Province. Of course, given that the Chinese Han have treated the local muslims like their second class citizens with no rights might have something to do with the receptiveness found towards extremist fundamentalists. After all, that's what they did in Tibet as well. Brutalize and subjugate all those who oppose them. Hawk