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To: Elmer who wrote (46633)	7/8/2001 8:04:20 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

<font color=green>Time to cache out Q. When I boot my Pentium 4 PC, it says, "Cache memory bad." Isn't the cache in the CPU now? Does that mean the CPU is bad? A. When a system starts, the BIOS performs a comprehensive Power-On Self-Test (POST). If the BIOS finds any problems, it displays the error on the monitor. A "Cache memory bad" error means the L2 cache is defective. For socket-7 motherboards (which hold Pentium, Pentium MMX, AMD K6, AMD K6-2, AMD K6-3, Cyrix 6x86, and Cyrix MII processors), the L2 cache sits separately on the motherboard. In this case, you can simply replace the L2 cache. (Check with the motherboard manufacturer for more information.) But most newer CPUs (Pentium II and later) have the L2 cache built in, so you must replace the processor outright. computers.cnet.com FWIW INTC shipping all P4's without testing them? Yields must be awesome on P4! or maybe not? M.

To: Elmer who wrote (46633)	7/8/2001 9:15:24 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

You're an idiot, Elmer. I have no idea whether the Raging Bull guy was a real economist or not, but by all indications you're the one making it up. Not that that's unusual or anything, what with 2 years of "we will bury you" posts to your credit.

To: Elmer who wrote (46633)	7/8/2001 9:58:41 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Intel cannot be accused of predatory pricing (except of course by an AMDolt) from a higher price point than AMD. But with AMD, you just get the CPU. With Intel, you get the whole package including the CPU, that warm feeling of "Intel Inside", you get a cool logo, sticker on your PC, you get the jingle, you even get some entertainment in form of 3 men painted blue. Joe

To: Elmer who wrote (46633)	7/8/2001 10:20:56 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

" It's just plain nonsense. Intel cannot be accused of predatory pricing(except of course by an AMDolt) from a higher price point than AMD." At least in the EU, you are wrong. xrefer.com "The practice, undertaken largely by dominant businesses, of pricing goods or services at such a low level that competitors are forced to leave the market. While small companies are entitled to price as they wish, provided this is not in collusion with other companies, dominant businesses must comply with Article 86 of the Treaty of Rome; predatory pricing may be an abuse of a dominant position contrary to this provision. Companies can be fined for engaging in predatory pricing." Sounds like Intel was guilty of this during the Celeron days when Winchip, Cyrix and Rise were creamed. That Article 86 thing is interesting too. xrefer.com "A provision of the Treaty of Rome, with direct effect throughout the EU (see Community legislation), that prohibits abuses of a dominant position by businesses in the EU. Examples of breaches of this Article include refusing to supply an existing customer (for example, when it has begun to operate in competition with the dominant company), selectively reducing prices to stop competition from competitors (see predatory pricing), unfair or excessive prices, tying clauses, and refusing to license intellectual property rights. Article 86 only prohibits such conduct if the business is dominant, i.e. if it enjoys a market share of 40% or more in the EU (or a substantial part of it). The rules only apply when the conduct affects trade between member states." So Intel might be in trouble in Europe.