To: NightOwl who wrote (75559 ) 7/11/2001 8:01:57 AM From: gnuman Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625 Owl, I asked: Can you tell us which of these "Desk Top segments" is best served by the RMBS platform as opposed to the DDR platform? From the customer's perspective, i.e., forgetting INTC's marketing needs, I don't see it. If the quote from INTC is both accurate and honest, customers will be voting with their feet and departing the Bus. GP I appreciate your reply but, alas we seem to be having two different conversations. If I were a "Performance Segmentee" examining the comparative benefits of the RMBS platform to the DDR platform why would I compare dual channel X and single channel Y? I take it your reply is colored by what you perceive as being available in the market. My question on the other hand is simply seeking a comparison of the technologies. Hypothetically, if Intel changed their plans and supported PC2100, if dual channel chipsets and mobo's were available from Intel, if Rambus doesn't come out with wider/faster solutions, etc., etc., then I can see a "push" between platforms. Similarly on the i4 you say: If it lowers DRDRAM production costs while providing better performance than DDR, why can't you see a position for that solution? And we still don't know what the new 4i chipset look's like. There may be some surprises. I can only say that I am already "surprised." I must have missed the news but I haven't seen anything to indicate anyone was working on an i4 chipset and I know I haven't seen any specs on i4 performance numbers. It seems to me that if one is able to consider the i4 chipset as an actual "product" at this point, he could certainly have no difficulty accepting the reality of dual channel DDR. I think that's been reported by a number of sources, including Intel. A quick search finds this clip from Anandtech. We can say that 4i RDRAM modules will require chipset support, and their release in 2002 will be accompanied by the release of Intel's second RDRAM chipset for the Pentium 4. anandtech.com As to the segmentation thing we will have to agree to disagree in our respective viewpoints. If I were AMD or INTC I could accept your categories of "segmentation" in general. But as a consumer I will always "see" far fewer "segments" than their marketing folks would try to make me accept. From my perspective, a "segment" is simply a mfg's attempt to match his product line up to the desires of large numbers of consumers. You can sell me on a Formula I racer being a different market "segment" as compared to a HumVee. But from my perspective we have long since waived good-bye to the day when there was any material difference between a Ford, Chevy, Honda, etc... Which no doubt explains the hundreds of millions in wasted advertising/sales overhead built into the price of the latter in comparison to those first two "specialty" vehicles. You don't think the auto makers segment their product lines by price/performance and application? For example, Ford Motor's Jaguar, Lincoln, Mercury and Ford? Even within the Ford products you have Aerostar, Bronco, Escort, Explorer, F150, Focus, Mustang, Taurus, etc? The myth that "there can be only one" is just that. JMO's