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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (18691)	7/19/2001 11:59:36 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

The catholic church has used the power of excommunication and anathema to sentence people to Hell many times. Again, this had nothing to do with my sharing with you of the story about how faith, and fear of authority, can destroy a life. But as you chose a flippant response it is only mete that you be exposed as a biblical charlatan. The priest could not excommunicate her and probably would not if he could. The church isn't in the habit of excommunicating people who get divorces anyway. Nor is it official church policy that one who is excommunicated is automatically doomed to hell. As for anathema can you point out an example where this was used by the Catholic Church in the 21st or 20th centuries? Even the 19th? Also again this is not within the power of a priest or even his bishop, as your own quoted data specifies that it has to be "solemnly promulgated by the Pope." I believe no person has ever anathematized anyone just for getting a divorce. Getting back to the original point of our conversation, its unfortunate the woman was in and stayed in an abusive relationship. The church doesn't say you have to stay with someone that abuses you. (It does however define any new sexual relationship as adultery, whether it is as part of a new civil marriage or not). But adultery does not normally result in excommunication. The priest may have told her that she must stay with the abuser or that she would be excommunicated if she left, but then he was wrong both as a practical matter and under cannon law. But even then there is a rather fundamental difference between the actions of someone who convinces you to act stupidly, and one who uses physical force to control and harm you. Tim