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To: S100 who wrote (3170)	7/20/2001 6:43:50 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 12247

<Here is an article for your perusal; can you guess where it comes from? > Nope! You've got me and Google.com beaten. But it is obviously American. It's a lot of rot. China's human rights record and that of the USA follow similar repressive lines, though one is a little more pregnant than the other. Americans don't get it, but melanin-rich people were actually enslaved, lynched, KKKed and generally held hostage to profit of their owners. They mostly didn't like that. That sort of stuff isn't prehistoric. I remember watching it 'as seen on tv' in the early 1960s, with some brave politician standing in the way of a girl going to school because she had natural sun-protection. Sure, in terms of numbers, China is far ahead, but morals aren't made by numbers. Murdering or repressing 10 is worse than murdering 1, but morally no different - often the score is just a matter of opportunity and efficiency. How about Waco as a comparison with Tienanmen? How many children were killed in Tienanmen Square? Both were illegal assemblies, as was Kent State where students were murdered. Executions happen by the dozen in the USA - some people consider that uncivilized and even Sandra Oconnor is having statistical doubts [she voted for executions previously]. No time for a full-scale rant, but jingoism is alive and well. Mqurice

To: S100 who wrote (3170)	7/21/2001 9:56:32 AM
From: rf_hombre	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12247

Sorry, but I cannot subscribe to this "Party Line". Chinese leaders don't go to bed with the sole preoccupation of whether or not WCDMA rollouts will be delayed. No, their chief issue is whether or not they will be able to feed, clothe and provide basic services to er...1.3 Billion people! 1/4 of humanity! Anyway, based on our sad recent history who are we to apply moral judgements? In the IOC decision, I think the "civilized" west has sagely realized that it cannot impose its moral values on an altogher different world. But if our values don't force them into submission from the top down, our Starbucks, mobile phones and internet will from the bottom up. rf_hombre