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To: Alighieri who wrote (138266)	7/24/2001 10:23:18 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583505

The world snubbed him yesterday on the Kyoto accord Totally unimportant. A shortage of fossil fuel and gasoline, described by Bush and Cheney only a couple of months ago, has turned into a glut with prices dropping by more than 20% Yes, this "just happened". Same as when Clinton was in office, the increases "just happened". It is interesting to me that you want to give credit to Clinton for his "great economy" but when we have good economic developments under Bush, you criticize him for it. The fact is that OPEC sees US drilling as a threat to their immediate profits and responded accordingly. This is what happens when you have someone in office that doesn't just talk the talk, but walks the walk. And OPEC knows it. He lost control of the Senate because of careless blockhead behavior How is this? You have some nitwit Socialist that has been misplaced in the Republican party for years, and suddenly he sees he can make big news by bolting. Bush did what he always has -- supported his principle. At any rate, if the criminal Torricelli got his just outcome control would switch back. Honestly, I can't quite see on what basis you can criticize Bush for Jeffords' bolting. Sen McCain had to deny reports last week that he was about to jump ship as well. He may well do it yet. But what does that have to do with Bush? The fact that Bush won't be led around by his nose the way Clinton was is a good thing, not a bad one! Also on sunday reports from Genoa put Bush again in the spot light as "not on par" with peer world leaders. Bush's strong leadership brought about the ONLY significant development from G8. Where have you been? He lacks charisma Yes, well, I agree about this. And charisma is what liberals are all about. "We don't care about substance, but we want a leader we can bow and scrape to". Well, sorry buddy, Clinton's gone, and the country is better for it. I am not sure it is accurate to describe it as assault. To me, an assault occurs when a man uses his power to take advantage of an unsuspecting woman. I do expect liberals to see this differently, however. ANYTHING to support lefty politicians. It doesn't matter what they did, it is okay, because they're leftists. I am hard-pressed to point to an example of a liberal with scruples. Even Joe Lieberman, who was previously believed to be a liberal with scruples, crumbled when the NAACP ran that racist ad. He couldn't criticize it. No scruples.

To: Alighieri who wrote (138266)	7/24/2001 2:07:43 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583505

I am routing for Bush (as I did Reagan) on this one, on hope alone and against cold reasoning of those who say that it is a futile effort, bound to fail. ..but this is not an original idea. Nothing that has come from this guy is original or even on target. The world snubbed him yesterday on the Kyoto accord. The US is now unnecessarily isolated on the matter. A shortage of fossil fuel and gasoline, described by Bush and Cheney only a couple of months ago, has turned into a glut with prices dropping by more than 20%. We were supposed to have a severe shortage of refineries and sources of new oil, and we needed to urgently drill in the Artic preserve to keep catastrophe at bay. He lost control of the Senate because of careless blockhead behavior and Sen McCain had to deny reports last week that he was about to jump ship as well. On sunday Opec issued comments indicating that the abundance of oil in the market is propelling a "price crisis" and called for production cuts. Also on sunday reports from Genoa put Bush again in the spot light as "not on par" with peer world leaders. Want more?? This is an average, pedestrian guy who has reached the presidency complements of the Supreme Court and thanks to Clinton's reckless sexual escapades. He lacks charisma. Unless he demonstrates remarkable achievements in the next three year, he will not be able to live down the image he has acquired and he will be history. Well said! ted

To: Alighieri who wrote (138266)	7/25/2001 9:19:17 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583505

Al Re..Nothing that has come from this guy is original or even on target.<<<<< Whether you want to agree or not, you have to admit that the tax cut is the usual way of dealing with a recession. We just may be in a recession now, and Gw has already passed a tax cut. While the tax cut is small, it is on target. The world snubbed him yesterday on the Kyoto accord. The US is now unnecessarily isolated on the matter. <<<<< The Kyoto accords are set up to punish the most successful countries since 1990, as the target is to reduce emissions to 1990 levels. But guess what, the US is almost alone in the world for having a booming economy since 1990. While the US Gnp almost doubled in the 1990s and enery went up by a 2/3 amount, Europe only gained one third that amount, and their energy usage, after accounting for new co2 eaters, only has to come down a measly 5% to meet Kyoto. The US would have to drop 20 to 30%, to go back to 1990 levels. Which would mean existing industries would have to upgrade or eliminate making products here, and new industries would have to go somewhere else, or pay. Europe wanted Kyoto to slow our economy down. The developing countries were after the penalties we would have to pay. The developing countries could add all the gas they wanted without penalties, and Europe gained by eliminating their main competition. Little wonder they wanted us to be suckered into this. And it is the main reason Kyoto was rejected 97 - 3 one yr ago. That said, we could still make Kyoto and not kill our economy, if we decided to go nuclear in a big way; as 1 lb. of U235 has the energy equivalent of one million gallons of gas. If we tried hard enough, all of the main problems with nuclear could be overcome, and we would have an abundant clean source of energy. It will involve some risks, a belief that the engineering is as sound in practice as it is on paper. But with over 15000 people dying each yr. in the US from pollution, it is time to accept the risks of nuclear, over the certainty of pollution from oil and coal. . A shortage of fossil fuel and gasoline, described by Bush and Cheney only a couple of months ago, has turned into a glut with prices dropping by more than 20%.<<<<<< Haven't you heard, there is a worldwide recession going on. There would still be a shortage without the recession. In addition, Cheney said the shortage was in refineries, not in production. This is an average, pedestrian guy who has reached the presidency complements of the Supreme Court and thanks to Clinton's reckless sexual escapades. <<<<<< Frankly, the USSC had to make a decision. The fact that it went against you, and now you are whinning about it just makes you a sore loser. It was a decision which could of went either way, you lost, get over it. Maybe you will win the next one. As for Bill, yes, his sexual shenannigans definitely cost Al the election. . He lacks charisma. Most presidents didn't. Lincoln, while a great speechwriter wasn't a great speaker, and Truman was a ordinary as they come; but both were good to great presidents. Unless he demonstrates remarkable achievements in the next three year, he will not be able to live down the image he has acquired and he will be history.<<<< What image? The Gw is stupid image will blow up in your face if Putin agrees to limit his warheads to under 2500, in exchange for missile defense. The tax cut is already passed, education should be passed, a drug bill should pass, Hmo protection should pass, and it could well have some limits on litigation. A more ambitious legislative program than Bill had. The image that will have to discrded, is the image of the dems using women as red meat. You will have a real problem retaining the female vote if you dems. don't clean up your act shortly. Chandra and Gary are still the main topics on the talk shows. Even Geraldo is pummeling Gary. stupid, irresponsible...and probably sexual harassment. I am not sure it is accurate to describe it as assault. I don't know what the one topic has to do with the other however. << Call it whatever you wish, but if the dems don't put this behind them and soon, you can kiss your hopes of regaining the house goodbye.