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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (114608)7/26/2001 4:22:18 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 436258
 
Here's a pretty typical example of how mortgage refi's work here in sunny Phoenix:

msnbc.com

Michael Herr, a 33-year-old supervisor for a hair-dryer manufacturer near Phoenix, has refinanced his home three times in four years. The first transaction, in 1998, produced $25,000 in cash, which Mr. Herr and his wife, Shannon Kaiser-Herr, used to reduce credit-card debt and pay private-school tuition for three of their four children. Their mortgage-interest rate held steady at 9%, but the mortgage grew by almost a quarter, to $128,000. Their monthly payment rose to about $1,100, from $1,050.
A second refinancing boosted the Herrs’ loan to $133,000 and yielded $5,000 in cash. They have continued acquiring big-ticket items. Last Christmas, Shannon bought Michael a big-screen television for $2,200. “I don’t need it, but I love it,” he says. “We like to buy things.” Their credit-card debt grew to more than $40,000 in 2000.
This year, the Herrs, who had combined 2000 income of about $78,000, went back for a third refinancing. They tapped $20,000 more of the equity in their home, which was appraised at $165,000, up 19% from four years ago. Mr. Herr says his mortgage broker, State Mortgage, told him this would have to be the last time. With a new $160,000 mortgage, the Herrs have only $5,000 of equity left in their house. Their interest rate is now down to 7%, but with the bigger loan, their monthly payment is up to about $1,200.
Most of the $20,000 in cash they recently obtained went to chip away at credit-card debt, Mr. Herr says. But if there’s anything left over, he adds, they might spend it on a vacation.


HO HO HO! Got money for nothing? Got chicks for free?<G>



To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (114608)7/26/2001 4:23:37 PM
From: hdl  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
his beret is red



To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (114608)7/26/2001 5:33:49 PM
From: BigMoney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
"their shareholders would be better off if they closed the business down for a while"

how do you think everyone's been working off their inventory glut. their sales aren't improving, they just stopped making anything until they either get rid of the old junk for a huge loss, or they just throw it in the dumpter and write it off in one big lump sum (ala CSCO).

actually, CSCO had the right idea. destroy all inventory, write it off as obsolete, and start over. everyone forgets those "one-time" charges anyway. as long as those proforma numbers come in on target, hey what's the problem? i wonder why companies just don't do that every quarter.