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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: E who wrote (19762)7/30/2001 10:42:42 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Stop talking dirty.



To: E who wrote (19762)7/30/2001 11:02:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Even those who do not go about sowing wild oats (most frequently from lack of opportunity) are likely to approach marriage with a great deal of naivete and many unrealistic expectations, things that do not auger well for the success of a marriage. If we insist on celibacy until marriage we are also likely to see many early marriages, with all the trouble that brings: the sexually inexperienced frequently mistake their first real lust for True Love, and act accordingly. The sexually experienced have been known to make the same mistake, but they make it less frequently and they are more likely to realize their mistake before doing anything stupid.

IMO, of course.

I have never met a young person filled with pride at a plan to remain celibate until marriage that was not reciting words provided by an elder. The pride is less pride in virtue or in "decency" (my, what a word that is) than pride in unquestioning obedience to the code.

The whole idea of celibacy until marriage springs from an age when people married very young, when the roles of marriage partners were fixed, and social and economic mobility was limited. The idea might have been laudable then, but it is hardly realistic now.



To: E who wrote (19762)7/31/2001 8:32:28 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I've never met a person who had had virtually no sexual experience before marriage who didn't sow their wild oats after marriage.
The oats will be sown, if there is a field available.


Utter nonsense. A sweeping generalization. Many people make a promise (like a marriage vow) and are successful at keeping it throughout their lives. It all depends on the individual and on the individual's values.

JLA