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To: Windsock who wrote (49564)	8/1/2001 11:42:46 AM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Windsock, Re: a PIII-M running at 733 MHz blows the doors off a an A4 running at 1 GHz <gggggggggg> Wow, that's one big grin. Andreas

To: Windsock who wrote (49564)	8/1/2001 12:00:26 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Windsock: So you have proved that a PIII-M running at 733 MHz blows the doors off a an A4 running at 1 GHz No, you are mistaken. The article clearly states that the processor was run in Battery Saver Mode. In this mode, the Athlon runs at the lowest power setting ALWAYS. I.e., it was running constantly at 300MHz. You need to set the mobile Athlon to Automatic Mode for the variable frequency to come into play. See: amd.com -fyo

To: Windsock who wrote (49564)	8/1/2001 12:03:46 PM
From: jjayxxxx	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Re:"The link clearly states that tests were note done in automatic mode. Intel goes down to 733 MHz while amd chip goes down to 300 MHz." The Intel power saving technology runs at a constant speed, 733 MHz on battery, and 1.13 GHz on AC power for the PIII-M. The A4 power saving technology runs at 300 at idle mode and steps up to a full 1 GHz when processing. So you have proved that a PIII-M running at 733 MHz blows the doors off a an A4 running at 1 GHz <gggggggggg> No, the article explicitly states that ..."The runtime results we present here are with the machines set to maximize battery life." In other words, they don't tell the whole story. If battery life is critical, you're probably not as worried about performance while in that mode. If you are, the PIII-M is obviously your best choice. Most people will put the machines in "automatic mode" since the article also states ... "On our lab tests, running either an AMD- or Intel-based machine in automatic mode (letting the processor set its speed according to the task at hand) typically shaved 5 to 10 minutes off the battery's runtime." 5 to 10 minutes from about 3 hours is not that big a deal to most people. But as I stated above, if it is, you have your answer. By not providing us with any benchmark results while in "automatic mode" or "performance mode" (i.e. plugged-in), PCMag has provided us with a pretty shoddy review. I don't think they tried to distort their findings. I think they just don't understand the issue (like many people here), or they don't have the money/time to do the article right, or both. BTW, I have owned a Sony Vaio with a PIII for about 9 months now. Works great. JJ