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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (140682)8/3/2001 1:51:28 AM
From: pgerassi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dear Tench:

AMD has stated that it is able to run on Hammer. That is in legacy (32 bit) mode, not in either long mode (compatability or full). I do not feel this will be any trouble to do as decoders do it now. They have stated what will not run in either compatibility or full 64 bit modes. There is a simulator that runs slowly, but can show what a certain code will do whether it was intended to do it or not. This is similar to what Intel did prior to having actual IA-64 samples with their simulator.

Now are you assuming that a company would lie? Did Intel lie about what IA-64 would do? Are you saying that a code segment ran on IA-64's simulator one way, but ran on real production hardware in a different manner? Don't both companies make a condition that specifications may change without notice.

In this case AMD has a very strong incentive to run all code in legacy mode. In addition, that no performance penalty occurs in legacy mode as comparing against a similar x86 CPU. That does not say that performance will not be improved when running in full 64 bit mode doing that same task with code optimized for that mode. It would gain 2 distinct marketing advantages, 1) full compatibility with current and future x86 OS and applications, and 2) all of advantages of slow upgrades to full 64 bit mode on a piecemeal basis. In addition, full 64 bit advantages in memory addressing, processing, and larger flat register sets both integer ALUs and FPUs. IA-64 has disadvantages in the first two marketing areas.

Pete