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To: kapkan4u who wrote (49678)8/2/2001 4:54:35 PM
From: jamok99Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Kap,

Good link. Worrisome article.

<<"We've done some early work on the Spice models so that Sun engineers could evaluate the technology, and together we've come to the conclusion that the advantages of SOI get smaller and smaller as you shrink [geometries]," Buss said.>>

I'd be very interested in the opinions of the technologically literate on the thread as to whether the issues raised in the article are legitimate worries/disadvantages for SOI or whether this is PR cover for non-SOI advocates.

Jamok



To: kapkan4u who wrote (49678)8/2/2001 6:08:19 PM
From: Gopher BrokeRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
I don't like this. A bad bet on SOI can ruin AMD.

What's the big deal? AMD have 6 months of non-SOI .13 production before the SOI process is introduced. SOI is not until 2H02, which is at least 9 months away. If SOI does not deliver what IBM/AMD claim then that will be borne out in the current engineering samples and there is still time to switch horses.

amd.com

Also, I have always had the greatest respect for IBM's R&D. If they say SOI is the dogs bollocks then I am inclined to believe that over the rather nebulous extrapolations you find in Intel's research papers. In fact, wasn't there an equally unjustified claim about copper being no advantage at .18?



To: kapkan4u who wrote (49678)8/2/2001 6:10:38 PM
From: Jim McMannisRespond to of 275872
 
RE:"I don't like this. A bad bet on SOI can ruin AMD."

It appears that TI is playing it safe or IBM is over-hyping SOI. I don't know enough about it.
Maybe by going with SOI, AMD gets some help from IBM???
TI doesn't want to yield to IBM? Intel likely won't either as anything they don't come up with first is "no good"...

Jim