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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (167471)	8/3/2001 12:20:05 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Clinton never did well with voters? He beat Bush 41 by over 5%, and Dole by over 8%. I'd say that's well enough. Certainly better than Bush 43, who didn't even win the popular vote.. Not quite. GWB won 48% of the popular vote. Clinton only got 43% against GHWB I'd say that job approval tracks whatever political or economic issue is uppermost in people's minds at the time. Sometimes this is economic, sometimes it's not. Remember how Bush 41's approval ratings soared after the Gulf War, then crashed as the economy went sour? Fact remains that Clinton's approval ratings were consistently in the 60's while Bush 43's are in the 50's. At the same point in his Presidency, Clinton was in the high thirties. As for Dems having a hard time breaking 50%, you can say the same about Republicans -- last guy to do it was named Reagan, I believe. As long as there are third party candidates like Perot or Nader, this will be true as to either party. Everybody agrees that Bush 43 is a nice guy. But he seems to be running a kind of semi-detached Presidency. One curious thing when you look at the polls is that the number of people who answer "Don't know" when asked about him is actually rising. People haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. Semi-detached? In what way? Because he won't give press conferences to his enemies in the liberally biased media?? JLA

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (167471)	8/6/2001 10:01:19 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

>>Clinton never did well with voters? He beat Bush 41 by over 5%, and Dole by over 8%. I'd say that's well enough. Certainly better than Bush 43, who didn't even win the popular vote. The popular vote was essentially a tie - we elect by electors. Various pollsters have studied the results and some say that the networks - by holding "Bush" states and projecting "Gore" states earlier, especially the erroneous projection of FL for Gore which cost Bush tens of thousands of votes in FL alone - depressed GOP turnout and gave Gore the small vote edge. Further, that Dem-planted DUI story where Dem operatives secured sealed court records and made them national news the weekend before the election turned an easy Bush win into the squeaker. I submit that Bush43 did not learn from Bush41 about Dem tactics, read the collusion between Walsh and the Clinton campaign in 1992. In any event, Bush did better than Clinton did in attracting voters in his first win. And lets's face it, Bush41 and especially Dole were lousy candidates. Bush41 merely proved that any Reagan Veep would have a heady advantage in securing a win. Not so for poor AlGore, he was caught by the Clinton undertow. >>As for Dems having a hard time breaking 50%, you can say the same about Republicans -- last guy to do it was named Reagan, I believe. You believe wrong. Bush41 secured the Third Reagan Term with 53+%. It was only when Bush41 governed as a Liberal Republican that he lost voter support. No GOP Prez will ever again forget who elected him/her if he/she wants to be successful. Bush 43 has rejected his father's example and is following the example of Reagan, who, as the most successful Prez since FDR, was mimicked by Clinton and Gore to varying degrees. As for Clinton, let's hope he continues to define the Democrats down. As George Will said yesterday in response to Clinton going to Harlem, "There goes the neighborhood!". (All laughed in agreement.) I suspect only OJ would have been better received by the same rent-a-mob.