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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (74458)	8/4/2001 9:59:14 AM
From: Tom M	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116753

speaking of titanium, interesting action friday: biz.yahoo.com

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (74458)	8/4/2001 10:43:39 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116753

<<Right now, I still like platinum, silver and palladium better>> Guess you missed Honda's BIG news about new cat converter design. HONDA MOTOR ANNOUNCES DEVELOPMENT OF BREAKTHROUGH EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM TORRANCE, Calif., March 22, 2001 — Honda Motor Co., Ltd., and Catalytic Solutions, Inc. (CSI), of Oxnard, Calif., have developed a breakthrough emission control system that greatly reduces the use of costly precious metals, Honda announced today. Honda holds a 10 percent stake in CSI. The company was founded in 1996 and has focused on the development of advanced materials technologies for application to catalysts. The emission control technology uses perovskites and other metal oxides, allowing for a 50 to 70 percent reduction in the use of precious metals such as platinum, palladium and rhodium. To achieve the full benefits of the system, control of the air/fuel ratio and early catalytic activation are important, which are key attributes of Honda's advanced low emission technology. Honda has been evaluating the performance benefits of the technology with CSI since 1999. The technology will be implemented for the first time on a new Honda Stepwgn model to be introduced in Japan this April. Plans call for the technology to be applied to other Honda models in markets around the world in the years ahead, including the U.S. No timetable has been established for the introduction of the technology on vehicles sold outside Japan. CSI developed the new catalytic coating materials used in the perovskite three-way catalyst. These materials include unique crystal structures that convert and reduce oxides of nitrogen, hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide. The two companies worked together to optimize the properties for Honda's automotive catalysts, with Honda's air/fuel ratio control and early catalytic activation capabilities playing a key role. Honda has long been a leader in low emission technologies, dating back to 1975 when the Civic CVCC became the first car to meet the 1970 Clean Air emissions requirements without using a catalytic converter. Over the years, Honda introduced the first gasoline-powered car to meet the Low Emission Vehicle standard (1995), the first gasoline-powered car to meet the Ultra Low Emission Vehicle standard (1997), the first to sell LEV vehicles voluntarily in all 50 states and the first to sell a gasoline-powered vehicle meeting the Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle standard (2000), the most stringent emission standard in the world. With the introduction of the 2001 Civic lineup, Honda also became the first company to distribute ULEV rated vehicles in all 50 states. honda2001.com Yes, there are breakthroughs in super conductivity using silver, that's my bet.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (74458)	8/4/2001 10:52:06 AM
From: Joan Osland Graffius	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116753

KT, >>Right now, I still like platinum, silver and palladium better, in that order. I am even starting to warm up a bit to your old flame, titanium, again, but I'm not quite there yet. I am also watching platinum and palladium in the form of IMPAY and AAPTY, but they are not at prices I am willing to pay yet. I made a fair amount of money buying these during the 1998 fiasco, and plan on making some more this time around. I picked up some silver stock recently when PAAS was hitting bottom, using your 1/3 game I have a good average price. I purchased some gold stocks during the last down turn and these are doing well at the moment, besides the dividends are buying fur coats to keep me warm in the Minnesota winter. <VBG> I am also watching our old friend titanium. I did not sell all of my TIE because I bought a boat load at the low and was going to send way to much money to Washington. <g> I think when these guys get washed out we are going to make some money because of oil exploration and the use of the metal in new auto designs. I am sad to see De Beers go private. We have made some good money on that trading sardine. Oh well life goes on. Did you see OST, made a buck on that game, not big but it all counts. Joan

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (74458)	8/4/2001 7:29:53 PM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116753

topic(s) = platinum, kitchen sink and Black Frost of 1975. First my Safe Harbor by the Kitchen Sink: Below is a reference to a thread of a company of which i hold 17,500 shares of average price 1/8 with current price being 1/4, and i have no association with company eXcept that in the battles between good v evil i am the good and managemint there the evil. Hopefully this is an on topic and not seened as a pumping of this company i hold shares in since my True Love is Gold, and that she may return from her status of Pumpkin Carriage that she was transmuted into when the clock struck midnight on that day she was declared no money or store of value. My concern is a simply one, what if platinum goes from a precious metal based on limited supply and high cost to produce, to as common and cheap as wood en nickel? Is the following a re-birth of a Bre-X scam'ation or folks in the hot desert sun without hats or better than changing lead to gold change desert dirt to the platinum group metals. SI: StockTalk: Gold, Mining, and Natural Resources : Global Platinum & Gold (GPGI) To:Bob Walsh who started this subject From: Bob Walsh Friday, Aug 3, 2001 Press Release August 3, 2001 Global Platinum + Gold, Inc. announces results of independent tests and major refiner assays... ... extraction of platinum group metals from its Hassayampa property. We are pleased to report... Message 16165284