To: MrLucky who wrote (13774 ) 8/6/2001 9:13:21 PM From: Lazarus_Long Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 59480 Sometimes. Occasionally. Southern CA USED to be fairly conservative overall. Orange County was known nationwide as a "right wing extremist" (as in John Birch Society) enclave. Unfortunately, immigrants (mostly illegal) have poured over the Mexican border. They are poor and poorly educated and (naturally) largely side with the Democratic Party which promises to give them goodies if us mean old Republicans will just let them. Given time these illegal immigrants become legal and start voting. ( Bush's recent proposal will bring in a large number of new Democratic voters.) So southern Cal is probably a basket case. Bush's recent proposal will bring in a large number of new Democratic voters. There are large parts of southern CA that make you feel like you are no longer in the United States. The central valley is farms and lots of conservative farmers. While there are many Latinos working the crops there, a large percentage of them are migratory and unlikely to vote. So those conservative farmers mostly dominate the politics. (Condit is from the central valley.) The San Francisco Bay Area is San Francisco, Oakland and the East Bay, and Silicon Valley. We all know what to expect of San Francisco. Oakland and the East Bay are something of a mix, but have large areas of poverty and overall is quite liberal. (The People's Republic of Berkeley is the next city north of Oakland.) Silicon Valley, for reasons unapparent to me, is largely Democratic. Engineers tend to be Republican, but, while we get lots of ink, we are a small part of the population. The area north of San Francisco is not heavily populated compared to SF and south. It varies in politics. The central valley part is conservative; the coastal area tends to be artsy-craftsy and leftover hippies. (This is one of the US's larger pot growing areas. Pot is THE cash crop up there.) Overall, grim I'd say.