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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (115916)	8/7/2001 5:56:42 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 436258

Agreed. Today's credit report was huge...consumer's no longer willing to take on debt despite the ridiculously low interest rates, tax cuts on the way, lower energy costs, yada, yada, yada. It's debt satiation pure and simple, and the Fed's string-pushing is about to be unmasked for the farce it is. Got Japanese style debt bubble implosion? You bet!

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (115916)	8/7/2001 6:57:11 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Heinz: are you not concerned about the commercails moving to only marginally net short gold now: if they go long thats the last thing we want now if long gold, no?